From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 3 18:48:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E3B10656D9 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E388FC18 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:48:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 15152 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jun 2009 18:48:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (24.42.224.110) by smtp8.knology.net with SMTP; 3 Jun 2009 18:48:36 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 4DD732841F; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:48:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:48:36 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20090603184836.GA46417@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20090603091800.GA1177@phenom.cordula.ws> <20090603102720.GB1349@phenom.cordula.ws> <20090603133343.GB1988@phenom.cordula.ws> <4ad871310906030653o62d7e708w1a7be44334ab8dab@mail.gmail.com> <20090603152939.GF1988@phenom.cordula.ws> <20090603185039.54cdd820.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: cpghost , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Glen Barber Subject: Re: Open_Source X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:48:41 -0000 On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:32:38PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > >A counter-example is VMS. It is a commercial product, but highly > >reliable and secure. > > At least is said too, i never used or even seen VMS. When Digital Equipment Corporation collapsed, the architect(s) of VMS went to Microsoft and were given NT to mold in their own likeness. This is where rings of security levels originated in modern Windows. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Cutler NT 3.5 and possibly 4.0 supported VMS-like versioned files as part of the filesystem. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.