From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 13 14:54:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E075837B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0D943EA3 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:54:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g9DLsUPQ057066; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:54:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.4/Submit) id g9DLsUmc057065; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:54:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:54:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200210132154.g9DLsUmc057065@apollo.backplane.com> To: "Crist J. Clark" Cc: Trish Lynch , Adrian Wontroba , chris scott , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ifconfig config of gif tunnels References: <20021013172810.A19177@titus.hanley.stade.co.uk> <20021013130138.G523-100000@femme.sapphite.org> <20021013214642.GB90169@blossom.cjclark.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Ewww. That kind of defeats the whole purpose of mergemaster(8). The :whole idea is for a human to sit at the console and decide what :changes need to be made. With your system, you'll lose any changes to :master.passwd or group (like the recent addition of the sshd :user/group). (Although I'll admit that changing the hosts file is one :that I wouldn't mind skipping everytime.) You might as well just copy :your files out of the way, run the make commands mergemaster(8) does, :and then move the files back. Mergemaster(8) doesn't really buy you :anything the way you are using it. : :Actually, you probably really should be using the '-a' option to :mergemaster(8), and then go back later to see what else you need to :update. :-- :Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu I would like mergemaster a whole lot more if: (1) It just overwrote system files that users are not supposed to change anyway, like files in /etc/defaults and the /etc/rc* files. (2) It cleared the window before each presentation, so I don't have to search around the window to find the filename and/or diff that it's currently asking me to do something about (this is especially annoying for small files). (3) It didn't try to display the whole diff initially, causing a pipe-to-(less or more) that I then have to quit out of before I can tell it to install / delete. Blech. Sorry, just venting. Mergemaster is just one of those programs which does important things but goes about it in an unbelievably annoying and unobvious fashion. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message