From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 23:50:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054F016A401 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-28.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-28.bluehost.com [69.89.17.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CEA5213C45B for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 24313 invoked by uid 0); 20 Feb 2008 23:50:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 2008 23:50:20 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JRyhf-0006VA-PM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:50:19 -0700 Received: by demeter.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:50:19 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:50:19 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080220235019.GF97072@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> <1203468277.6470.114.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1203468277.6470.114.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.9.123.251 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:50:21 -0000 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:44:37AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 08:49 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > The way you phrased it makes it sound like FreeBSD is simply unsuited to > > use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this > > from a Thinkpad laptop with FreeBSD on it, and it's by far the best > > "desktop" OS I've ever had the pleasure to use. > > Me too. But you have to be more enabled to get a lot of the software the > is wanted on a desktop system working. Case in point: Gnome is not > automatically installed (or kde or any other wm). Web browsing can be > tricky because you have to get wrappers for plugins and so on. For you > and me- we don't mind because we know the result will be fantastic, but > others who just want to get on with it it can be a pain. More enabled . . . ? You have to be "more enabled" to use *anything* that isn't preinstalled by the hardware vendor. That basically means anything that isn't MS Windows or MacOS X. After all, Linux, FreeBSD, Plan 9 . . . none of them are "automatically installed" on any computer, with rare exceptions. > > Therefore, I'd say a desktop version of FreeBSD would be better > described as a workstation. Considering we're comparing to Ubuntu, I'd > say thats a fair statement. I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] McCloctnick the Lucid: "The first rule of magic is simple. Don't waste your time waving your hands and hopping when a rock or a club will do."