From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 10 02:03:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767E416A4CE for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 02:03:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from guldan.demon.nl (cust.13.38.adsl.cistron.nl [62.216.13.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B59843D90 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 02:03:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@guldan.demon.nl) Received: from bombur.guldan.demon.nl ([192.168.1.3] helo=localhost) by guldan.demon.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD) id 1AU1BU-0006yz-E0; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:03:08 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:03:07 +0100 From: Robert Blacquiere To: eqe@cox.net Message-ID: <20031210100307.GC66019@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> References: <200312092243.02269.eqe@cox.net> <20031210054413.GA58841@just.puresimplicity.net> <200312100454.13107.eqe@cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312100454.13107.eqe@cox.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Disclaimer: running FreeBSD X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "thorin.guldan.demon.nl", hasmessageblock similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details.eqe@cox.net wrote: > Yes, you have a point here but I never said alpha hackers are working in vain. > I merely tryed to imply that theirour efforts on just platforms that are more > mainstream in the serverfor issuesalways support them as well as 4.9. so I don't really see any great loss > havejust for fun, but > considering that getting more ram for the system would cost co. more than the > mashine is worth it is really dead and when question. > > Sign, > Eriq Lamar [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -------------------------------------------------- cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why support alpha?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:03:59 -0000 On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 04:54:13AM -0500, eqe@cox.net wrote: > Yes, you have a point here but I never said alpha hackers are working in vain. > I merely tryed to imply that their efforts could better serve the freebsd > community by concentrating our efforts on just platforms that are more > mainstream in the server market. I personally would stop dev. on anything > lower than a PII for 5.2. Its not abandonment it's just progress, their are > greater issues at hand that need attention like smp. Futher more netbsd will > always support them as well as 4.9. so I don't really see any great loss > here. I support a lan that has mostly modern equipment but it does have two > 586 on the network. on one of them I have 5.1 running on it just for fun, but > considering that getting more ram for the system would cost co. more than the > mashine is worth it is really dead and when anything breaks in it. those 486s > will see the dumpster w/o question. > > Sign, > Eriq Lamar Just a users opion. I'me using a couple of Alpha's as mail system, even with full load the system runs smooth. I havent seen that on any other Intel system yet. I think we should drop the intel support because of the bad system architecture. Intel systems can't handle the IO the SParc, PowerPC and Alpha systems can handle. So why in hell do we need to support degraded systems like intel?? A sort of flame -- Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? FreeBSD: Are you guys coming or what? OpenBSD: Hey guys you left some holes out there!