From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 15 15:38:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F6D37B401 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 15:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net (stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111BC43FAF for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 15:38:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesuscash@cox.net) Received: from [199.38.33.126] (helo=OM2929D1) by stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19GRN7-0003bR-00; Thu, 15 May 2003 15:38:46 -0700 Message-ID: <001701c31b32$c7ea1f30$7e651eac@prod.westworlds.com> From: "Brandon Barnes" To: "Tom" , References: <20030514152545.21062.qmail@web40402.mail.yahoo.com><3EC2CCD8.5060500@rogers.com> <3EC3C9ED.5030003@cox.net> <200305151734.21135.tsasser@terra.cl> Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 17:39:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 X-ELNK-Trace: 173ceee98ce2438e0e1b13634061d4137e972de0d01da9405831801db4bec3947c32404f8fa3cbbf350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Subject: Re: used computers was: Re: Yahoo!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 22:38:50 -0000 It's a laptop though. :P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom" To: Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 18:34 Subject: used computers was: Re: Yahoo!!! last i saw, used compaq p233's w/ 32 mb ram and 1 to 2 gb hard drives and a cdrom were selling for $30, $20 without the drive. given what you have, that would make a nice little server. check around for some used state/county/city computers...they usually have them by the palletful somewhere. --tom On Thursday 15 May 2003 11:10, Jesus Cash wrote: > P100, 16 megs of RAM. However if I wanted to shell out 75 dollars I > could probably get the 32 meg upgrade available for it. > > -B > > mj001 wrote: > > Jesus Cash wrote: > >> Mandrake was my Linux as choice as well. I totally see what you mean. > >> These major distros are getting to be just like MS. Proprietary and > >> bloated. I've mentioned this before, but I tried install Red Hat 9 on > >> my dinky laptop, thinking I could just strip it down to basics. Nope, > >> just said your computer is crap and can't install Red Hat 9. Once I > >> can get some working floppies (mine all crapped out when I carried > >> them unprotected in my laptop bag) I'll install FreeBSD on it. Maybe > >> I'll try my hand at loading OS/2 (I'm a little worried about trying > >> to run XFree86 or any desktop on it). > >> > >> -B > >> > >> RexFelis wrote: > >>> Here's another example why I use FreeBSD now... > >>> > >>> Why does it have to be such a hassle for me to > >>> install a single program that I need under Linux? > >>> I was trying to make custom recorded audio CDs > >>> (not music CDs), like I used to in Win98 using > >>> Voyetra's software. I looked around and found > >>> Audacity. It looked good... but Linux Mandrake > >>> made me crazy with dependencies. FreeBSD just > >>> downloaded and installed them. 3.5 days of > >>> frustration in Linux, 35 minutes of surfing the > >>> web while the program was downloaded, patched, > >>> custom compiled and installed on FreeBSD. > >>> > >>> Linux seems to be heading in a couple of > >>> directions I disagree with. Dependency hell > >>> whenever you try to do what YOU want to do is one > >>> of them. (Mandrake works great as long as you > >>> only use Mandrake-prepackaged software.) The > >>> other is the growing commercialization of the > >>> major distros. I don't want shareholders telling > >>> me how to run my computer! > >>> > >>> I agree with JC, FreeBSD is fun. I was having > >>> fun with Linux, until I realized what fun really > >>> is. :) Freedom is always more fun. > >>> > >>> Shannon > >>> > >>> --- Jesus Cash wrote: > >>>> I'm pretty much in the same boat as Shannon > >>>> here. Maybe not as advanced in Linux, but there was just something > >>>> in Linux > >>>> that I felt was off. I've been telling people I've never said I love > >>>> an OS before, but I love FreeBSD. > >>>> > >>>> As for learning curve? What learning curve? :P > >>>> I pretty much just threw myself in and have been figuring stuff out > >>>> for > >>>> myself. Most importantly, it's been a FUN learning experience. > >>>> > >>>> -B > >>> > >>> __________________________________ > >>> Do you Yahoo!? > >>> The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > >>> http://search.yahoo.com > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > How big is your laptop? I used to run FreeBSD and X-Windows (but not > > KDE or GNOME) on a 486DX33 (non-laptop) with 20MB. It worked, but was > > somewhat slow. A Pentium 120 with 48 MB runs KDE 3.0 quite well. But > > a NEC Versa LX laptop with 64 MB is impossibly slow - I suspect it may > > be the disk speed. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _______________________________________________ freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"