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Date:      Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:18:03 +1000
From:      "Joe Shevland" <shevlandj@kpi.com.au>
To:        "Igor Roshchin" <str@giganda.komkon.org>, <security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: named -- unapproved update (?)
Message-ID:  <NEBBKPJCEMMGFBLGLENGGEHHCAAA.shevlandj@kpi.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <200008240457.AAA03676@giganda.komkon.org>

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I'm out of my depth here to answer all your questions, but 1) Win2K has =
a 'feature' to automatically update the DNS with its information which =
may be what you're seeing. I see a lot of 'microsoft-ds' packets =
floating around anyway from the Win2K boxes. I can't fathom what an =
abortion of a feature this is.

3) I'm not sure, I suspect a broadcast UDP request (??)

and finally, yes, I believe you can turn this behaviour off in the LAN =
settings (uncheck the 'Register this connections details in the DNS' =
checkbox in your Control Panel->Network Settings->LAN->TCP/IP->Advanced =
settings.

Keen to know more on this also,
Joe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Igor Roshchin
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 2:58 PM
> To: security@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: named -- unapproved update (?)
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> Hello!
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> I recently started a named server on one of the computers.
> This server is not announced as a primary or secondary DNS server
> for any of domains, nor it is listed in /etc/resolv.conf
> of any computer (besides the computer it's running on).
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> Immediately, I started seeing a message:
> Aug 21 18:18:31 <daemon.notice> MYHOST named[1480]: unapproved=20
> update from [XXX.XXX.XXX.NNN].4110 for clientdomain.com
> where "clientdomain.com" - is one of the local domains, and=20
> apparently the quering host is
> in that domain (i.e. strangehost.clientdomain.com), and is=20
> physically on the same segment of the network (XXX.XXX.XXX),
> and on the same internal (Ethernet) network.
> This message appears twice or four times at once, and each such group
> is spaced from each other by 1-2 to 10 minutes.
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> Unfortunately currently I have no access to that box, and all I=20
> know that it's
> running Windows (2000?). I am sure it does not have MYHOST in any of =
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> configurations.
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> Questions:
> 1. What those requests mean ?
> 2. What are the possible reasons for them ?
> 3. How did [could ?] that host discover the DNS running,
> except for by scanning all local hosts ? Why would it do that ?
> I know that there exists some trojan that sends some strange queries
> to DNS servers, basically scanning some networks, but it is somewhat
> different here.
> Any ideas what all this could be ?
> Or is it just Windows 2000 strangeness ? If so, is there is any
> way to get rid of those annoying messages  ?
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> Thanks,
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> Igor
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