From owner-freebsd-java Tue Jan 5 07:19:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25721 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 07:19:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from abc.aaa-mainstreet.nl (abc.aaa-mainstreet.nl [195.64.77.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA25712 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 07:19:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gary@hotlava.com) Received: (qmail 6225 invoked by uid 666); 5 Jan 1999 15:23:48 -0000 Date: 5 Jan 1999 15:23:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990105152348.6224.qmail@abc.aaa-mainstreet.nl> From: "Gary Howland" To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Kaffe and GNU licence Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I noticed today that Tim Wilkinson has switched to a GNU licence for kaffe! (yes, I may be a bit late in noticing this). This is very bad news for those of us who like (need?) BSD style licences. And it is all the more true since I know of no other similar project. Big deal, some of you might say. Perl's going the same way too. Just shove it in /usr/src/contrib and deal with it that way. But I think we're going to see a closer integration of bytecode interpreters and the OS in the future. For example, I was considering removing all of the thread and garbage collection stuff out of kaffe, hacking the Runtime class, and using this cutdown interpreter as a bootloader (although I noticed ficl is now doing that job - but I would still argue the java bytecodes might be a better option, even if just because they are more popular). But the new kaffe licence prevents me from doing that (with the latest version at least). So, would it not be a good idea for FreeBSD to adopt the most recent release under the old licence (0.9.3?), and maintain an alternative version under the BSD licence? If needs be, I'd even offer to be in charge of patches and releases and stuff (although I'd sooner not, since my time is limited). Gary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message