From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 11:07:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1897110656C0 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:07:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66E08FC23 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3037729bwz.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:07:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.6.26 with SMTP id 26mr1500772bkx.123.1267873645775; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:07:25 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [85.116.204.54] In-Reply-To: <20100306092541.1b0c279b.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100306080358.GE9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20100306092541.1b0c279b.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:07:25 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:07:29 -0000 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote: >> Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg >> linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw >> since I live in a Windows free zone at home. > > Well, there's always "youtube-dl -a" for that. Just for YT > I don't need "Flash". That's true. I love youtube-dl too, as it helps me keep a local .flv copy, even for videos that have been removed for one reason or another. However, there are other video sites like dailymotion. What downloader do you use for these? And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime YT changes its embedding. I wished YouTube would switch to HTML5, or at least added this as an option. > The "need", to illustrate that, is > often nothing more than a useless barrier built by people > who don't seem to know better. As I said before, most things > that "Flash" can do could be achieved with standardized (!) > and free means. And often, "Flash" is (ab)used to do idiotic > things like simply providing animated buttons. I've talked with the IT department of a company recently who had to switch from perfectly usable barrier-less HTML to Flash. Actually, the IT guys didn't want to, but their management was adamant. The main reason wasn't buttons or little animations, but something much more mundane: the graphics design company they hired to create their new corporate identity insisted that the only way to get a 100% pixel-precise layout was with Flash... and management fell for it. Basically, they wanted to duplicate their glossy brochures 1:1, and didn't care about reduced usability and accessibility. Incredibly silly move, but their company, their decision. > With the upcoming HTML 5 standard, there's even a chance that > "Flash" will be ignored by the rest of the world sooner > or later. HTML 5 isn't the problem, that will be easy to implement. It's about picking the right video codec. There's no high quality codec available that is both ubiquitous in hardware, and unencumbered by patents. > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/