From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 28 08:58:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E5E106564A for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 08:58:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lichray@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8431E8FC1A for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 08:58:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwc9 with SMTP id 9so1982246qwc.13 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 01:58:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+n180kE5uu87L4lD+bcIZ6liaTW4jEBpGlB10DdI2kQ=; b=lKGd3QXqXpl8Rs7B1LekI902118ilfHgpb+5GGmriqBLml9OHmWM5NVKHI8y4w8jO5 tmGOVmMc0LDLIrCaVoN8w2YdWkQezIOZ04LAUiL638IRFpwrzSAEO2vbPDF/sDVd/4QP 3zhOgYMBkpTxwTafbUFgDuatH7MqNLwhI+rNE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xGXZefcL6xeg3N3xssAMpCNzhpnlPEjxixy29dFHMshEJVv0Lxs2m7MDqLLcFvU0f1 i+JBD97TAoP9/YH0Yo5RMK0tZBExo5QY4bLd5w0YvQRza/3LcXP8XKEmMUw5EbqyZA8F FqufH4aMrWmXCKSdLJxXZrGnVa1ariV8JU51I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.41.11 with SMTP id m11mr3082934qae.155.1301302703524; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 01:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.20.19 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 01:58:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110328075529.GA1403@psconsult.nl> References: <16FA7C02-86B0-46E6-A923-BC61357478FA@vicor.com> <20110328075529.GA1403@psconsult.nl> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 03:58:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: Zhihao Yuan To: Paul Schenkeveld Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Boot-Loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 08:58:25 -0000 On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:55 AM, Paul Schenkeveld wr= ote: > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 09:48:03PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: >> Hi fellow hackers, >> >> I'm designing an open-sourced replacement boot-loader for FreeBSD. I fee= l that the existing options in the boot-loader menu today can be whittled d= own significantly with a stateful menu system rather than a single-action i= tem menu system. >> >> In designing the new menu, I'd like to get your opinions. From old: >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE: twitpic.com/4e485w >> >> to new: >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Replacement Boot-Loader: twitpic.com/4e46ol > > Very nice! > > Could you consider changing the number options to letters: v=3Dverbose, > a=3Dacpi, s=3Dsingle ... I agree. Vim-like actions make sense here. And also, I want command completion... > > Having many (hundreds) of machines to manage it's confusing to need 6 > for boot prompt on older versions and 5 on the newer where 6 on the > newer reboots. =C2=A0Moving from digits to letters with digits resulting = in > either a beep or a pause saves a lot of frustration for sysadmins > already annoyed by the ever increasing POST delay rapidly pressing > 6 when the boot0 menu appears. > > Thanks for your work! > > Paul Schenkeveld > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " > --=20 Zhihao Yuan The best way to predict the future is to invent it.