From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 11 20:36:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9399A16A41F for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:36:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 34EE943D55 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:36:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 46023 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jan 2006 20:36:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VPRPkXA/EvO/J4HLTPl/7ULrRxUWcBWJt+pi4109fjR6KW+bif0Al3h91mRzDwa2x13uOZIaSaXWscHQhZ5ZyTY4R9MrB1LkCJsJQWTl9ziUAUBrxzM+xlZ/aoTaMenKrGCE+OcyDmQ+yHy7bv4uIf/S778/dCj6UygS25SWj8k= ; Message-ID: <20060111203616.46021.qmail@web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:36:16 PST Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:36:16 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060111143450.1D2E.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Dual Core vs HyperThreading vs Dual CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:36:17 -0000 --- Gerard Seibert wrote: > Danial Thom > > > > > > > --- "Andrew P." wrote: > > > > > On 1/10/06, Marc G. Fournier > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm going to assume that Dual Core is > better > > > (can't believe that they took > > > > a step back) ... but, is how does it > rate? I > > > know that HyperThreading is > > > > definitely != Dual CPU ... but how close > does > > > Dual Core get? > > > > > > There is extensive evidence (google for > that, > > > please), that > > > HT is even slower than a single core in > quite a > > > few applications. > > > Moreover, the whole HT implementation has > been > > > shown to > > > be a security risk. In the near future > intel is > > > going to spend $1.9bn > > > on its new marketing campaign. If you wanna > be > > > part of it, > > > buy their CPU, half of the money will be in > > > your nearest billboard. > > > > > > Dual-core is a new, and a very smart > concept, > > > which is exactly > > > equal to a dual-cpu configuration in terms > of > > > performance per > > > core - plus it provides a huge cut down on > > > power consumption, > > > and a theoretically hugely faster > > > interconnection between the > > > cores (they are physically many times > closer). > > > > Thats not entirely true, as its not *exactly* > the > > same. It looks the same to an O/S, but things > are > > wire differently, so there are likely to be > some > > differences. > > > > > > > > By 2010 we'll see 4-core, 8-core and maybe > even > > > 16/32 solutions. > > > > Intel has implied that they will have > > multi-multicore processors (more then 2) a > lot > > sooner than you think. But for now the > multicore > > thing is just marketing hype because most > O/Ses > > don't utilize DP efficiently enough to make > the > > gains worthwhile. You'll likely see more > urgency > > to produce them when OS'es can actually > benefit > > from them. Most people today who use DP > system > > just "assume" they are faster or better > without > > having any real clue if they are or not. > > > > DT > > > Dell has a graphic display of the difference > between its processors > available at: > > http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/global/products/dimen/topics/en/dimen_xps600_sp_specs?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs Wait, I can "download music, run a virus scanner and play games" all at the same time? wow. Wait, I can do that anyway. Does each core have its own hard drive too? I wonder how many meetings they had before they came up with that "description" of the benefits of dual core technology. People are so easily bamboozled. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com