From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 12 17:26:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D40737B403 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:26:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mda@discerning.com) Received: from mdaxke ([64.169.92.103]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0GGD00BBMYJJFF@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:23:18 -0700 From: "Mark D. Anderson" Subject: Re: Intel ISP1100 or similar 1U experience with 4.3 stable To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <0a7a01c10b32$048ca100$13bf2581@mdaxke> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org a nice feature of both the isp1100 and the sun netra is that they have both: 1. serial bios output (not just serial console after some OS is booted), 2. remote reboot (not remote boot like PXE, and not wake-on-lan, but a remote command to it to reset power, whether any OS is running or not). the isp1100 does this using the "EMP" serial port available on the L440GX+ board; i assume that other systems using the same board could do the same. the vacm.sourceforge.net project has support for the control protocol from a linux-based controller (intel only offers a win32 executable for control). i assume that could be easily ported to freebsd, though there is no requirement for the controlling PC to match the controlled PCs. i don't know of any other production intel 1U system that has these features, besides the ISP1100. despite the fact that VA spearheaded the vacm project, their 1U system instead used a proprietary ethernet port. ones based on simple serial ports are better since you can run them all through a dialup terminal concentrator (or a PC with a multi-serial card, your choice). HP, Dell, and Compaq have some of these features, but based on extra plug-in cards (variously called "Lights Out Management", "Remote Insight", etc.). this adds a lot to the expense. IBM offers a system (the xSeries 330) with a proprietary kvm daisy-chain cable they call "C2T". That cuts down on cabling, but doesn't offer the simplicity of a serial port. if anyone has info on an intel 1U system with the features of the ISP1100, please let us (or at least me) know. I don't know why there is apparently not much demand for it -- seems to me that if you care enough about space that you get 1Us, then you care about manageability. -mda To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message