From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 17:29:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4673516A41C for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:29:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1756743D48 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:29:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j5HHTC5d023538; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:29:12 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id j5HHTBtp023537; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:29:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:29:11 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= Message-ID: <20050617172911.GE20342@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <20050615061009.GA11914@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <001501c5720b$aceb84d0$0b2a15ac@SMILEY> <20050616164747.GB21733@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <86y899ct8l.fsf@xps.des.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WBsA/oQW3eTA3LlM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86y899ct8l.fsf@xps.des.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu Cc: 'Vladimir Grebenschikov' , Darren Pilgrim , 'Matthew Emmerton' , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADSUP: OpenBSD dhclient incoming X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:29:51 -0000 --WBsA/oQW3eTA3LlM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 09:55:38AM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > Brooks Davis writes: > > I'm seriously considering removing the following variables: > > > > network_interfaces >=20 > Don't. >=20 > If network_interfaces is left unspecified, the scripts will use > 'ifconfig -l' and everything is fine provided all the interfaces were > already attached (i.e. the drivers were compiled into the kernel or > listed in loader.conf). This is the common case. >=20 > However, if the driver wasn't already loaded for some reason, > network_interfaces + ifconfig_foo0 will take care of it. Without > network_interfaces, we lose this functionality, for no benefit at all > to anyone. I don't buy this. Removing network_interfaces reduces the amount of code we need to write and the weird edge cases a fair bit and either way you have to edit a file to cause the module to load. Why not edit /boot/loader.conf instead and actually acknowledge what you are doing? -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --WBsA/oQW3eTA3LlM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCswhlXY6L6fI4GtQRAimAAJ9jvpEOd00K0SZDqjljdXzODd5J6QCfXFl2 /XVqaApjO+Ew40wIT01ZHuE= =ALf1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WBsA/oQW3eTA3LlM--