From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 12 18:40:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799941065674 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 18:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@kozubik.com) Received: from kozubik.com (kozubik.com [216.218.240.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F20E8FC08 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 18:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kozubik.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kozubik.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q5CIerxE031433; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:40:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@kozubik.com) Received: from localhost (john@localhost) by kozubik.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id q5CIemHc031430; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:40:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@kozubik.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:40:48 -0700 (PDT) From: John Kozubik To: Jason Hellenthal In-Reply-To: <20120612151746.GA33004@DataIX.net> Message-ID: References: <20120612011645.GA7807@lonesome.com> <20120612151746.GA33004@DataIX.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Mark Linimon , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upcoming release schedule - 8.4 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 18:40:56 -0000 On Tue, 12 Jun 2012, Jason Hellenthal wrote: >>> I am looking at the upcoming release schedule, and I only see 9.1 >>> listed - can anyone confirm or deny 8.4 ? >> >> Although I am not on re@, AFAIK the only schedule that is on the table >> is the one for 9.1. >> > > Release 8.3 (April 2012) has it really been 6 months yet! We (rsync.net) are deploying our new ZFS based platform on FreeBSD. This is a platform that needs to be live in just a few weeks.[1] We only run release software. Further, I don't think anyone will fault us for steering clear of 9.0-RELEASE. 9.1 is probably four months away. So our choices are 8, which has no roadmap, and 9 which doesn't exist. On the one hand, we've made this choice before, when we invested hundreds of thousands of dollars into equipment, code, training, etc. for 6.4. We've successfully amortized this investment over the past 4-5 years, but not without a lot of pain. The past 24 months has been a lot of custom work, backporting drivers, etc. We don't want to repeat this. On the other hand, we're not going to debut a new platform, to customers all over the world, on 9.0. So ... how about a kickstarter, since that's all the rage ? What would a reasonable total be, donated to the FreeBSD foundation, that would ensure the maintenance of the 8.x branch for another 3 years (say, Dec 31, 2015) and out to (to pick an arbitrary number) 8.10 ? Just a thought ... [1] After years of evaluation and testing, spanning 6.x - 8.x.