From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 09:10:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8587316A4CE for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:10:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web52710.mail.yahoo.com (web52710.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B85643D39 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:10:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kamalpr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 83734 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jan 2005 09:10:04 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=V/t11v84vS2C+f8BwGIvq5KIucAsf09Wn9MZWa3MOtBvkpmdI+c51wKnC86yiyqARtcTSPYgzhqdkGAC3nUPu7nwj2gnbuzaRlKjIoEaAQU/5EVNlbgqpLsp24092+KVxOn7M98lisyQhAH0gwyZx/XPfzYv3a5Jvc1eBdL3D6s= ; Message-ID: <20050107091004.83732.qmail@web52710.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.195.199.244] by web52710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Jan 2005 01:10:04 PST Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 01:10:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Kamal R. Prasad" To: Gerald Heinig , Robert Ryan In-Reply-To: <41DE4F3D.8050509@syskonnect.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: kamalp@acm.org List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 09:10:05 -0000 --- Gerald Heinig wrote: > Hi Robert, > > the benchmark you cited is for uniprocessor systems > only. > It says nothing about multiprocessor performance, > which is what FreeBSD > is aiming for. Doesn't the (ULE) scheduler have a switch to ensure that performance is optimal on a uniprocessor machine too? > It's comparing apples with oranges. > > Cheers, > Gerald > Netbsd works for upto 4 processors. So you should be able to run the same tests on a quad-processor SMP machine. regards -kamal > Robert Ryan wrote: > > Fellow FreeBSD developers, > > > > I hate to say I told you but it was inevitable. > > > > Check this out: > http://www.feyrer.de/NetBSD/gmcgarry/ > > > > As I predicted more than a year ago FreeBSD 5.3 > has > > finally lost its only advantage: performance. > NetBSD > > 2.0 shows that when you write code the right way > and > > end up with SOLUTIONS AND NOT HACKS you have a > system > > that works, and works well on all platforms. > > > > This is the consequence of a series of mistakes > made > > by the FreeBSD developers, the most important > being > > too arrogant and selfish to listen to Matt Dillon, > the > > man that warned you all about this. What did he > get > > in return? An expulsion from your gentlemen club. > > > > Poul-Henning Kamp has been using FreeBSD to push > his > > personal agenda, with completely useless features > such > > as GEOM and devfs, instead of concentrating on the > > real > > problem. The fact that your heavily mutexed system > > doesn't work and never will. > > > > Jeff Roberson's ULE is still broken but don't > worry, > > Matt Dillon will be hacking a much better > scheduler > > for DragonFly that you can later borrow. > > > > Mike Smith warned you about committee-designed > code > > years ago, why don't you listen? Why do you insist > on > > this arrogant pose and on treating potential > > contributors like pariahs? > > > > Why do you tolerate assholes like Dag-Erling and > > Poul-Henning? > > > > I hope you can learn something from the NetBSD > people > > before it's too late for FreeBSD. They managed to > do > > much more with less resources. You should feel > ashamed > > of yourselves. > > > > Sincerely, > > Robert > > > > PS: if I've offended anyone (yeah, I singled a few > > out) > > , prove me wrong, but spare me your insultedness. > > It's become a pathetic hobby in -core. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com