From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 22 20:26:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A331065676 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from vlakno.cz (77-93-215-190.static.masterinter.net [77.93.215.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692178FC29 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99599CB0D9; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:24:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vlakno.cz Received: from vlakno.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (lev.vlakno.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S6tcByqhIDRj; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:24:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vlk.vlakno.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115579CB13C; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:24:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from rdivacky@localhost) by vlk.vlakno.cz (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6MKOXVH028762; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:24:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rdivacky) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:24:33 +0200 From: Roman Divacky To: Ed Schouten Message-ID: <20090722202433.GA28586@freebsd.org> References: <2e566b9e0907202134h5568a06bl33a8d95ac9c7f845@mail.gmail.com> <20090721131735.GA18929@freebsd.org> <2e566b9e0907211818k1a52ef7am5c681a6f4ffc868c@mail.gmail.com> <864ot5jy3f.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20090722162036.GO68469@hoeg.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090722162036.GO68469@hoeg.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav , FreeBSD Hackers , "Shaowei Wang \(wsw\)" Subject: Re: llvm/clang a tool chain or just a compiler for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:26:36 -0000 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 06:20:36PM +0200, Ed Schouten wrote: > * Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > > "Shaowei Wang (wsw)" writes: > > > So what's the direction? Are we going to cut off all the GNU compiler > > > tool chains and use the llvm/clang when it's mature. > > > > Who's "we"? > > > > Anyway, LLVM *isn't* mature, and it probably won't be for years, if > > ever, so there's no point in asking. > > Even though "if ever" sounds a little bit pessimistic, I agree. > > Unfortunately I'm busy working on other things the last couple of > weeks/months, but the biggest problem with LLVM/Clang right now is that > the latest release on the website is practically useless to us. I've > been tracking SVN, but each time I decide to upgrade sources, I get yet > another regression, which means I have to file bug reports. I think I > already filed 50-60 bug reports. > > For some reason there has been a lot of talking, but no hacking. It > takes a lot of work to maintain ClangBSD, at least more than I'm willing > to spend on it right now. I know you disagree with me but from my pov clangbsd is mostly finished. the integration is "just fine". what we need to do now is to get clang/llvm and freebsd sources into shapes so there are no problems compiling freebsd with clang. most of the problems is with clang but there are things to improve in freebsd too. I am working (and others as well) on both. roman