From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 19:21:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBED16A41F for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 19:21:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Philippe.Pegon@crc.u-strasbg.fr) Received: from mailhost.u-strasbg.fr (mailhost.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.200.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643BE43D48 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 19:21:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Philippe.Pegon@crc.u-strasbg.fr) Received: from baal.u-strasbg.fr (baal.u-strasbg.fr [IPv6:2001:660:2402::41]) by mailhost.u-strasbg.fr (8.13.3/jtpda-5.5pre1) with ESMTP id j9VJLMZf029458 ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:21:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (crc.u-strasbg.fr [IPv6:2001:660:2402:1001::1]) by baal.u-strasbg.fr (8.13.4/jtpda-5.5pre1) with ESMTP id j9VJLJNT018220 ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:21:19 +0100 Message-ID: <43666E4C.4090205@crc.u-strasbg.fr> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:19:40 +0100 From: Philippe PEGON User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Olzheim References: <436116D3.908@samsco.org> <20051031151809.GA83253@stack.nl> <43663A0A.4040608@samsco.org> <20051031160150.GB87483@stack.nl> In-Reply-To: <20051031160150.GB87483@stack.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87/1151/Mon Oct 31 19:34:04 2005 on mr4.u-strasbg.fr X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87/1150/Sun Oct 30 12:20:38 2005 on baal.u-strasbg.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (mailhost.u-strasbg.fr [IPv6:2001:660:2402::154]); Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:21:22 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,NO_RELAYS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mr4.u-strasbg.fr Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! 6.0-RELEASE coming X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 19:21:25 -0000 Marc Olzheim wrote: > On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 08:36:42AM -0700, Scott Long wrote: > >>>Anyone having updates for my showstopper page, please, notify me... >>> >>>http://www.stack.nl/%7Emarcolz/FreeBSD/showstoppers.html >> >>The pty problem is likely a side effect of known locking problems with >>ttys and ptys in general. This probably the weakest part of the kernel >>right now and I don't know of a good work-around for apps that use these >>extensively. That said, there doesn't seem to be much of a problem with >>casual use; I use screen(1) quite a bit on my production 6.0-RC >>mailserver+firewall. > > > I know it doesn't trigger too often for most users, but still, for us, > once a week per server on 2 production servers we installed FreeBSD 5 > and 6 on, is way too often. :-( for information, we have the same problem on our productions servers with FreeBSD 5 and I know that we are not alone. We hoped a lot for a solution with FreeBSD 6 after this thread : http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-stable/2005-June/016154.html but I have just tested with FreeBSD 6.0-RC1 and the problem is always there :-( -- Philippe PEGON