From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 11:59:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041E237B401 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474F743F93 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:59:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from question+advocacy@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CC7D852F2; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:58:58 -0700 From: Linh Pham To: Johnson David Message-ID: <20030407185858.GA30697@q.closedsrc.org> References: <20030407153600.GA51613@netpublishing.com> <200304071139.35984.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200304071139.35984.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: closedsrc.org Mail-Copies-To: poster X-PGP-Key: http://olosecsrc.org/~question/pubkey.asc" cc: advocacy@freebsd.org cc: "Gregory A. Gilliss" Subject: Re: Look what a mess I made (was Brilliant and very useful...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 18:59:02 -0000 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003-04-07 11:39 -0700, Johnson David wrote: # "pander: someone who caters to or exploits the weaknesses of others" #=20 # I hope you can see my point. There is a line between advocacy and=20 # pandering that we should not cross. # # [snip] #=20 # When FreeBSD has the lack of functionality of a hammer, then it won't=20 # need instructions. Think about it. A hammer only does one thing (two if= =20 # you have a clawhammer). FreeBSD does a million things in a million=20 # different ways. Of course it needs instructions! But I do not think that we should "pander" users that are unwilling to read the instructions or think that we must hand-hold them throughout their entire learning experience. That doesn't always mean that we should just say, "RTFM", but rather point them to resources that best meet their needs and have them read up on it. --=20 Linh Pham question+advocacy@closedsrc.org Webmaster and FreeBSD Geek http://closedsrc.org Apprentice Manager Editor and Writer http://www.daemonnews.org Courage: The things I do for love | And So Western Civilization Crumbles --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+kcpywhofDeWkDMIRAlrcAJ4tYTSds6HFbzrkr4meRgmf35FMEACfSdZv JXCmfqyRoEvNW9hTJx+5NwY= =NG3N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU--