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Date:      12 Feb 1998 16:20:36 +0100
From:      Benedikt Stockebrand <benedikt@devnull.ruhr.de>
To:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD firewall questions
Message-ID:  <877m70c0jf.fsf@devnull.ruhr.de>
In-Reply-To: Benedikt Stockebrand's message of "11 Feb 1998 22:41:35 %2B0100"
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.95q.980211082836.5078A-100000@federation.addy.com> <87en19vmy8.fsf@devnull.ruhr.de>

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Benedikt Stockebrand <benedikt@devnull.ruhr.de> writes:

>     # route add -net 100.100.100.0 -netmask 255.255.251.0 \
>                 -interface 100.100.100.100

Danny O'Callahan is right: Make that netmask 255.255.252.0 instead of
...251...

> (not tested and I'm a bit out of practice with the syntax, so YMMV).

oh yes, and I was bl**dy tired, too.

> This is where things get messy because you're overriding the network
> route(s) above with a host route.  The most ugly part about it is that 
> internal machines can't reach the router itself anymore --- they can
> send things through it, but they can't even ping it to see if it's
> up.  They'll always complain about a "host is down" or similar.

One more addendum: If you *really* want to do this you might consider
using a proxy arp kludge.  I'd still recommend against it, though.


I've just dug through my assorted docs to see if there's any good
starting point about this issue.  Here's what I've found:

Craig Hunt, 
TCP/IP Network Administration ("Crab Book").
O'Reilly & Associates, 1992

        I've only got the old edition and it seems to miss the more
        advanced aspects like VLSM and CIDR.  Good starting point
        though.


W. Richard Stevens,
TCP/IP Illustrated Vol. I
Addison-Wesley, 1994

        This one deals with the protocol side of the problem in depth.
        Unfortunately not in one chapter but spread around a bit.  And
        it doesn't deal with the Un*x side of it.  Recommended if you
        really want to find out about the internals of the TCP/IP
        stack.

Otherwise you may try the gated docs, but I don't have them around so
I can't check --- YMMV.


> maybe some hardware fraggle knows?

Since Dave Walton asked what fraggles are: Apparently the name
"fraggle" comes from the Jim Henson "Fraggles" show.  They're a bunch
of nice but sometimes slightly childish beings (at least that's what
I've been told).

The "hardware fraggles" are the ones running around with soldering
irons and wirecutters.


    Ben

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