From nobody Thu Feb 1 14:43:24 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-virtualization@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TQhVL0TWsz58mVy for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2024 14:43:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-il1-x136.google.com (mail-il1-x136.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::136]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TQhVK2r7zz4hnS for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2024 14:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-il1-x136.google.com with SMTP id e9e14a558f8ab-363844ae819so3818745ab.1 for ; Thu, 01 Feb 2024 06:43:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1706798616; x=1707403416; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=O22RKWLHpCdeq2Ly8l2q/8ZRxTk0HFqxCQnJJHakMck=; b=nBC6CTWqgdp6Pv3zBbNHZXNdstWVp52Oe+vAe/Y2lHjAwFHcObEoSMla5qIcvO15vK nvK9doqBVM807kwcoQCAwVr8ElnA+fdstnRS6g1HVkURwMUCrlsgJYGRwDb22DCqAdwm JZAwVonYIlmGStuedFbMXQdGpsZkrldxc0cJ6J8TCMvaIfYBJsbRjScr8LM/it0n9CvO bwfD037cHa9pPmQErTDqj290IsbKsTJCubNUMT4bJn0NaLQ9B/K8D+M5NZb0SsRs5r+J PBpTUMXu8uMUPVnEAK3255r5J3R/9CIwZGDgdSNDVeAnpIU1sjupRhGpKeIHT2zbaHrO pSIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1706798616; x=1707403416; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=O22RKWLHpCdeq2Ly8l2q/8ZRxTk0HFqxCQnJJHakMck=; b=XV2Cj3uEd3f+KbqdelenuvxiwZEXwp8j2GsuQ89f6VWt1PHEc4ZZ49fY957Bu+kn3I tOqN+wVpYfdYAJOSp9L1sSkssMhNj3OGxUisSHv2Mutwd+rIVBfwUUdycp7ERFmbF5RZ aUECz5jGwLofjZvWSLT7NPAP3GhWr09xVVZs5ge9UPMywiTBo1JYkuy8WneNRS0dLzxm XDYhXYveZyo5+oh69OOPLJps1n65DtRJGjR+Tzo4LIgXtyi1RmaADiMVjgipUCpkg03c uoZKVlJ0h0qoCXEcTz3AU9uYrj6yAvKc/rmPCgizETTdu/Ny9qHEpMSnCv4D+DG2BCBu yMXg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwG3f95lXsWKN2jFA9QKuryIeUTl4oOpBkLoQd0i/kU+RrDYgcv mYRJZ0q8T0OJdqXcDiqZPUaAROmy96Cg9GiIzMA6QyTHxqE2+la1X7gdmZz0Q88PFOpXgfL5sfv WLg5naTB9HBswjbQa0P9XPTRj5vdc8OUEQ4FaaEFfgezcLsPOTiY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHq7iLknH1kugU1iyFKcJu5RhFucHGYVHGJjULkBKmBw7MDQDO8QyIgGlIMrZxtIq2ellDjXRYw0D1kd1OP5Ys= X-Received: by 2002:a92:cf48:0:b0:363:9280:8912 with SMTP id c8-20020a92cf48000000b0036392808912mr4994002ilr.27.1706798615943; Thu, 01 Feb 2024 06:43:35 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Discussion List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-virtualization List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Alejandro Imass Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 15:43:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: If we are so opposed to Docker and Kubernetes, what is the real alternative on BSD? To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: FreeBSD virtualization Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000034f1f00610530524" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TQhVK2r7zz4hnS X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] --00000000000034f1f00610530524 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 1:40=E2=80=AFPM Odhiambo Washington wrote: ... > You're missing the fact that you could virtualize a Linux host and run al= l > those Docker/k8s inside it and just proxy access to them. > For example, I am running https://ushahidi.kictanet.or.ke/views/map > inside an Ubuntu VM under bhyve. Apache on the FreeBSD host is doing the > proxy. > > PS: I am lucky to be the 1st one to pour more fuel into your flame :-) > > Hi Odhiambo, thanks for opening the discussion! I am aware that hypervisor and full virtualization is an option, no doubt. But IMHO ideally it should be native jails with Bastille, CBSD or whatever. Best, --=20 Alex > --00000000000034f1f00610530524 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 1:40=E2=80=AFP= M Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gm= ail.com> wrote:

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You're missing the fact that you = could virtualize a Linux host and run all those Docker/k8s inside it and ju= st proxy access to them.
For example, I am running=C2=A0https://us= hahidi.kictanet.or.ke/views/map inside an Ubuntu VM under bhyve. Apache= on the FreeBSD host is doing the proxy.

PS: I am = lucky to be the 1st one to pour more fuel into your flame :-)


Hi=C2=A0= Odhiambo, thanks for opening the discussion!

I am = aware that hypervisor and full virtualization is an option, no doubt.
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But IMHO ideally it should be native jails with Bastill= e, CBSD or whatever.


Best,

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Alex
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