From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Sat Jul 25 16:04:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC669AA25E for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scott4long@yahoo.com) Received: from nm11-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm11-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AC8518E for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scott4long@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1437840284; bh=/Ww1kzV+Sc2wxoHG54cxD9RgfA71Ak+b3atavS83iHM=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From:Subject; b=FOxM6IXzNuRbDTDH2uLySI+xPudM7Mrpw2aU36/w1pWmrGM6dl+tqaXP7BFoWcdGlHxaEEoDTwbE5koV4+v6QEDa51qD0pC00n2S/RvFqcUdzS0fT6CWxmZM5oEbn/JZtLLQ85r96AFEoRGR/OjfD43WRNIaunxB4931nQmy90lM9wyeQJo9/I9fqA4YoQ7g965GcNiJgYxiiY2u8e7iUCeKmHNDBmrOxa3GmfJJdjhwdaypeDX5j2c5+ZyMPk9jhKkXKX0x+nDqFYw+YRoXhdPvcMH1MmVKMZzC02/UAFwTtToiEJKkmH7f/FcxYRhJ/z8EniHp4uFK9Hla7OlFAA== Received: from [98.137.12.61] by nm11.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2015 16:04:44 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.190] by tm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2015 16:04:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2015 16:04:44 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 653148.51615.bm@smtp201.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: S.DslVAVM1kZhQUbjYyt.PNNCakDNR5RV0kVdBwUEG7ykZg Wkx75VozENoLCnzMDgWAxOiiS7hDbXoC_dfdYQwgLP8t8XbkVHViqoXEYcAE hwZqe.DONKfs..Up7.ZXSQpwO8LxPo7jEVWBAMLnXOougiPj_o5vY2jff_T5 v0nkQ7zmYX9yXge4aOvVGnjqNVG8E5zPOiIfSSvXKTS9e4LNDrbBLgbZzBzI lU5uHoXkiJZESIo2dPgB2t4XFhZ27UjUcLKeN.380kfjNiaHdTHh8VMg_P3m T2bu.05htyte_IEmg9E6.XwYTCC4YuOtwGae98hWdjbv.Rr3OL_QouJOj7vm nbPmmfAeyfwK_2.O5RN3oxY1Apysmd0BOb8aiNmlVmE5IF.aGKvn7s1C1WH5 qY.XKidbg06ERF_uqxBJOGGB3FYFZ4jGI96PJptlkC.wIwkGznKvsJ5FL6Dr rgg3Jz6zN4f52YmzCzOHHlIfY4UHd6hZGpVOrqFTWI1nNsMQA.QanlO3Uh0_ mfQTLSgvXaK2C.UVHKG5xfeFXNKiSXfqLfAb3loXc8w-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: clhABp.swBB7fs.LwIJpv3jkWgo2NU8- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Subject: Re: svn commit: r284959 - in head: . share/man/man4 share/man/man9 sys/conf sys/dev/glxsb sys/dev/hifn sys/dev/random sys/dev/rndtest sys/dev/safe sys/dev/syscons sys/dev/ubsec sys/dev/virtio/random sy... From: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <20150725143629.GA49086@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 10:04:42 -0600 Cc: Mark R V Murray , John-Mark Gurney , svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <201506301700.t5UH0jPq001498@svn.freebsd.org> <20150724012519.GE78154@funkthat.com> <20150725143629.GA49086@FreeBSD.org> To: Alexey Dokuchaev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:04:52 -0000 > On Jul 25, 2015, at 8:36 AM, Alexey Dokuchaev = wrote: >=20 > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 07:59:35AM +0100, Mark R V Murray wrote: >> [...] >>> Heck, piping in mic data to /dev/random is a good way to seed the >>> rng on many machines. >>=20 >> Well, sure, but what if you don't have microphone? I want lots >> of choices, in anticipation of only a subset being usable. >=20 > I like the microphone idea. Not just it adds another = hard-to-mess-with > (?) entropy source, it can also be a nice "reference" example for = people > wanting to write their own sources and plug them into the RNG = framework. >=20 Microphones don=E2=80=99t typically exist on virtual machines, servers, = appliances/embedded gadgets, and trusted computers. Nice idea for the = desktop, but far from universal. Scott