Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:11:33 -0500 From: Edward Shabotinsky <evs@telod.net> To: Duane Winner <dwinner@dwinner.net> Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Verizon Broadband modem Message-ID: <E2955C5B-6128-4338-ACE9-CB7C2F6F711C@telod.net>
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See if this can help you for start good luck Begin forwarded message: > From: John Nielsen <lists@jnielsen.net> > Date: February 4, 2007 10:40:13 PM CST > To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > Cc: evs@telod.net > Subject: Verizon V620 wireless card > > I just want to report that I got this card working on my laptop > running > 6-STABLE. (This should be a reply to this message but I couldn't > find it > locally): > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2006-December/ > 009404.html > > Unlike the OP, the usb hub was recognized on my machine and gave me > a ugen0 > device associated with the CDMA modem. So all I had to do was get > the modem > to attach to ucom or similar. > > After a couple false starts I got a cue from this message: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2005-June/ > 012512.html > > The attached patch lets the card attach as a ubsa device. I'm also > attaching > the ppp.conf file I hacked up (it's been a while since I've made > any ppp > chat scripts so I'm sure it could be done more elegantly). > > Here are the relevant bits of dmesg with the card inserted: > > cbb0: <TI1520 PCI-CardBus Bridge> at device 11.0 on pci0 > cardbus0: <CardBus bus> on cbb0 > pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 > cbb1: <TI1520 PCI-CardBus Bridge> at device 11.1 on pci0 > cardbus1: <CardBus bus> on cbb1 > pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1 > ... > cardbus0: CIS pointer is 0! > cardbus0: Resource not specified in CIS: id=10, size=1000 > ohci3: <NEC uPD 9210 USB controller> mem 0x88001000-0x88001fff irq > 9 at > device 0.1 on cardbus0 > ohci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb4: OHCI version 1.0 > usb4: <NEC uPD 9210 USB controller> on ohci3 > usb4: USB revision 1.0 > uhub4: NEC OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > ucom0: Novatel Wireless Inc. Novatel Wireless Merlin CDMA, rev > 1.10/0.00, > addr 2 > ucom0: ubsa_request: STALLED > ucom0: ubsa_request: STALLED > ... > (lots more STALLED messages) > > Despite the error messages it connects and works just fine, with > performance > similar to what I see in Windows (which isn't great in this area). > > evs: Did you take ohci out of your kernel by any chance? > > I'm open to feedback on what the STALLED messages might mean and > how to get > rid of them. > > JNBegin forwarded message: > From: Greg Troxel <gdt@ir.bbn.com> > Date: February 5, 2007 8:44:58 AM CST > To: John Nielsen <lists@jnielsen.net> > Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, evs@telod.net > Subject: Re: Verizon V620 wireless card > > I added the vendor ids to NetBSD's usbdevs and ugensa(4). (ugensa is > similar to (and I think the ancestor of) FreeBSD's ubsa.) > > Can you explain the UQ_ASSUME_CM_OVER_DATA quirk? I couldn't find it > showing up in ubsa or ucom, so I don't understand what it does (and if > anything odd should be done by NetBSD). > > > About the stall: see the following log entry in usbdevs: > > Revision 1.254 / (download) - annotate - [select for diffs], Sun > Feb 19 14:48:02 2006 UTC (11 months, 2 weeks ago) by iedowse > Branch: MAIN > Changes since 1.253: +1 -0 lines > Diff to previous 1.253 (colored) > > Add a UQ_OPEN_CLEARSTALL quirk for devices that need a clear-stall > operation when a pipe is opened, and add an entry for the ST Micro > biometric CPU. > > Submitted by: Fredrik Lindberg > MFC after: 1 week > -- > Greg Troxel <gdt@ir.bbn.com> Begin forwarded message: > From: John Nielsen <lists@jnielsen.net> > Date: February 5, 2007 9:41:23 AM CST > To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > Cc: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Verizon V620 wireless card > > [Adding usb@ to CC list.] > > On Monday 05 February 2007 09:44, Greg Troxel wrote: >> I added the vendor ids to NetBSD's usbdevs and ugensa(4). (ugensa is >> similar to (and I think the ancestor of) FreeBSD's ubsa.) >> >> Can you explain the UQ_ASSUME_CM_OVER_DATA quirk? I couldn't find it >> showing up in ubsa or ucom, so I don't understand what it does >> (and if >> anything odd should be done by NetBSD). > > I don't know what it does exactly. The comment in usb_quirks.h just > says "modem device breaks on cm over data". I do know that it's > needed for a > lot of cellphone and modem-type usb devices (including my Samsung > VI660 > (anyone feel like committing usb/74880?)). I tried my V620 with the > ubsa > patch but without the quirk and it didn't work at all. > >> About the stall: see the following log entry in usbdevs: >> >> Revision 1.254 / (download) - annotate - [select for diffs], >> Sun Feb 19 >> 14:48:02 2006 UTC (11 months, 2 weeks ago) by iedowse Branch: MAIN >> Changes since 1.253: +1 -0 lines >> Diff to previous 1.253 (colored) >> >> Add a UQ_OPEN_CLEARSTALL quirk for devices that need a clear-stall >> operation when a pipe is opened, and add an entry for the ST Micro >> biometric CPU. > > It doesn't look like this was ever MFC'ed. Who should I bug to get > that taken > care of? If I can test it and it takes care of the error messages > then I'll > add it to my patch and submit a PR. > > Funny coincidence. It looks like kern/106033 (the PR that led me > down the ubsa > path to begin with) was committed a few hours before my message > yesterday. > Thanks Lukas! > > JN > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Begin forwarded message: > From: Greg Troxel <gdt@ir.bbn.com> > Date: February 5, 2007 10:44:51 AM CST > To: John Nielsen <lists@jnielsen.net> > Cc: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Verizon V620 wireless card > > > John Nielsen <lists@jnielsen.net> writes: > >> [Adding usb@ to CC list.] >> >> On Monday 05 February 2007 09:44, Greg Troxel wrote: >>> I added the vendor ids to NetBSD's usbdevs and ugensa(4). >>> (ugensa is >>> similar to (and I think the ancestor of) FreeBSD's ubsa.) >>> >>> Can you explain the UQ_ASSUME_CM_OVER_DATA quirk? I couldn't >>> find it >>> showing up in ubsa or ucom, so I don't understand what it does >>> (and if >>> anything odd should be done by NetBSD). >> >> I don't know what it does exactly. The comment in usb_quirks.h just >> says "modem device breaks on cm over data". I do know that it's >> needed for a >> lot of cellphone and modem-type usb devices (including my Samsung >> VI660 >> (anyone feel like committing usb/74880?)). I tried my V620 with >> the ubsa >> patch but without the quirk and it didn't work at all. > > I've been using a KPC650 (vz) and a sierra aircard (sprint) on NetBSD > without any sign of that quirk with no issues. So, it could be that > the NetBSD code doesn't provoke the behavior for some other reason. > > Greg Troxel <gdt@ir.bbn.com> Begin forwarded message: > From: Volker <volker@vwsoft.com> > Date: February 5, 2007 4:57:07 PM CST > To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > Cc: lists@jnielsen.net > Subject: Re: Verizon V620 wireless card > >> ucom0: Novatel Wireless Inc. Novatel Wireless Merlin CDMA, rev >> 1.10/0.00, >> addr 2 >> ucom0: ubsa_request: STALLED >> ucom0: ubsa_request: STALLED >> ... >> (lots more STALLED messages) > > > John, > > just added myself to mobile@ (thanks for cross-posting this to usb@ > so I got notice of this discussion). > > If you're using the V620 (or any other (W-)CDMA) card with ppp, you > should make sure you're using: > > set cd 30! (note the exclamation mark at the end) > > I've seen _a lot_ of problem reports (not just with FreeBSD) where > ppp does not recognize a connection loss when using W-CDMA cards. > The exclamation mark forces ppp into waiting for a carrier and > following that CD signal. > > I suspect your problems might come from a bad signal. I don't know > much about the V620 (just that it's only used in nothern america) > but if it's a high-speed card (transfer rate > 56k, 3G mode?) you > should force your card into GPRS or 3G mode. > > By default W-CDMA cards are trying to auto detect the best signal > reception and that might cause often signal loss due to band change. > > If you know how to force the card into one or the other mode, please > use that in ppp's init string. If you don't know it, you may try the > commands for the U630 (I guess both cards are using the same command > set). You may find a bit info about the U630 at: > http://bsd.vwsoft.com/3g/merlin_u630.html > > Please note the U630 is serial-over-PCMCIA and not usb so the > hardware is not the same. I thought the V620 is also > serial-over-PCMCIA but it seems you proved me wrong. ;) > > Greetings, > > Volker > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Begin forwarded message: > From: John Nielsen <lists@jnielsen.net> > Date: February 5, 2007 9:35:24 PM CST > To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > Cc: Volker <volker@vwsoft.com> > Subject: Re: Verizon V620 wireless card > > On Monday 05 February 2007 17:57, Volker wrote: >>> ucom0: Novatel Wireless Inc. Novatel Wireless Merlin CDMA, rev >>> 1.10/0.00, addr 2 >>> ucom0: ubsa_request: STALLED >>> ucom0: ubsa_request: STALLED >>> ... >>> (lots more STALLED messages) >> >> John, >> >> just added myself to mobile@ (thanks for cross-posting this to usb@ >> so I got notice of this discussion). >> >> If you're using the V620 (or any other (W-)CDMA) card with ppp, you >> should make sure you're using: >> >> set cd 30! (note the exclamation mark at the end) >> >> I've seen _a lot_ of problem reports (not just with FreeBSD) where >> ppp does not recognize a connection loss when using W-CDMA cards. >> The exclamation mark forces ppp into waiting for a carrier and >> following that CD signal. > > I'll play around with that, thanks. > >> I suspect your problems might come from a bad signal. I don't know >> much about the V620 (just that it's only used in nothern america) >> but if it's a high-speed card (transfer rate > 56k, 3G mode?) you >> should force your card into GPRS or 3G mode. > > I'll experiment with that too. One thing I'm not sure I mentioned > in my > first post is that the STALLED messages only show up when the > device is > opened and closed. If I use ppp in manual mode I get about six of > them when > I first start ppp but none while I issue any AT commands or while > the link > is active. Then I get about six more when I close the link. > > It is a (relatively) high-speed card. Under Windows all the fancy > third-party software does is create a regular dial-up networking > link with > a serial speed of 230400. Doing the same with ppp under FreeBSD > gets me a > usable connection. Under either OS the latency is pretty high > (~300ms) and > a few packets get dropped here and there, but it beats straight > dial-up (or > heaven forbid, no connection at all!) > >> By default W-CDMA cards are trying to auto detect the best signal >> reception and that might cause often signal loss due to band change. >> >> If you know how to force the card into one or the other mode, please >> use that in ppp's init string. If you don't know it, you may try the >> commands for the U630 (I guess both cards are using the same command >> set). You may find a bit info about the U630 at: >> http://bsd.vwsoft.com/3g/merlin_u630.html > > Thanks for the link. More documentation is almost always better. :) > >> Please note the U630 is serial-over-PCMCIA and not usb so the >> hardware is not the same. I thought the V620 is also >> serial-over-PCMCIA but it seems you proved me wrong. ;) > > I was a little surprised when I first plugged it in under Windows > and a USB > hub popped up. But hey, I didn't design the card or even choose to > buy it > (it's part of the lucky ball-and-chain package I get from work when > I'm on > call). > > Thanks for your response. > > JN > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Begin forwarded message: > From: Volker <volker@vwsoft.com> > Date: February 6, 2007 6:04:09 AM CST > To: John Nielsen <lists@jnielsen.net> > Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Verizon V620 wireless card > > John, > > On 02/06/07 04:35, John Nielsen wrote: >> On Monday 05 February 2007 17:57, Volker wrote: >>>> ucom0: Novatel Wireless Inc. Novatel Wireless Merlin CDMA, rev >>>> 1.10/0.00, addr 2 >>>> ucom0: ubsa_request: STALLED >>>> ucom0: ubsa_request: STALLED >>>> ... >>>> (lots more STALLED messages) >>> John, >>> >>> just added myself to mobile@ (thanks for cross-posting this to usb@ >>> so I got notice of this discussion). >>> >>> If you're using the V620 (or any other (W-)CDMA) card with ppp, you >>> should make sure you're using: >>> >>> set cd 30! (note the exclamation mark at the end) >>> >>> I've seen _a lot_ of problem reports (not just with FreeBSD) where >>> ppp does not recognize a connection loss when using W-CDMA cards. >>> The exclamation mark forces ppp into waiting for a carrier and >>> following that CD signal. >> >> I'll play around with that, thanks. >> >>> I suspect your problems might come from a bad signal. I don't know >>> much about the V620 (just that it's only used in nothern america) >>> but if it's a high-speed card (transfer rate > 56k, 3G mode?) you >>> should force your card into GPRS or 3G mode. >> >> I'll experiment with that too. One thing I'm not sure I mentioned >> in my >> first post is that the STALLED messages only show up when the >> device is >> opened and closed. If I use ppp in manual mode I get about six of >> them when >> I first start ppp but none while I issue any AT commands or while >> the link >> is active. Then I get about six more when I close the link. > > You may even try to open the device with a speed setting of 1200 > baud. I've played with userland ppp and found that when using speeds > above 115kbit ppp might behave oddly. For any tty device which is > not associated with a real UART chip the speed should not matter. > Even in the driver the speed setting function is a dummy function > which does nothing but ppp takes care of the speed. > > I suggest to use a lower speed setting with ppp and try again. You > should have no throughput impact when using 38400 baud with ppp. At > least this is what I was experiencing using 3G hardware. > > Please try that (plus the 'set cd xx!' setting) and see if the > stalled messages are gone. > >> Thanks for the link. More documentation is almost always better. :) > > If you have any good docs for the V620 with the differences to the > U630 I'll put them up also if you can give me pointers. I'm trying > to assemble as much 3G infos as possible as this is a really > interesting infrastructure (I like the idea to have the internet to > go). > >> I was a little surprised when I first plugged it in under Windows >> and a USB >> hub popped up. But hey, I didn't design the card or even choose to >> buy it >> (it's part of the lucky ball-and-chain package I get from work >> when I'm on >> call). > > Most current 3G cards do have an interface like that. I think > Qualcomm designed that and most manufacturers took that. Just the > newer Option Globetrotter cards (3G Max, 3G +) do have a different > interface. > > Greetings, > > Volker > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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