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Date:      Mon, 17 Dec 2012 22:00:01 GMT
From:      "Simon L. B. Nielsen" <simon@FreeBSD.org>
To:        freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: www/174526: main website (freebsd.org/www.freebsd.org) is unreachable from Nova Scotia Universities
Message-ID:  <201212172200.qBHM01LV060537@freefall.freebsd.org>

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From: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" <simon@FreeBSD.org>
To: Joseph Mingrone <jrm@ftfl.ca>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org,
 "FreeBSD.org clusteradm" <clusteradm@FreeBSD.org>
Subject: Re: www/174526: main website (freebsd.org/www.freebsd.org) is unreachable from Nova Scotia Universities
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:55:04 +0000

 On 17 Dec 2012, at 20:29, Joseph Mingrone <jrm@ftfl.ca> wrote:
 
 >=20
 >> Number:         174526
 >> Category:       www
 >> Synopsis:       main website (freebsd.org/www.freebsd.org) is =
 unreachable from Nova Scotia Universities
 
 > 	For the past month or so, freebsd.org has been unreachable from =
 Dalhousie University (Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada) IP addresses.  Until =
 today, www.freebsd.org was accessible.  The traceroute (pasted below) =
 shows problems after routerer-pat1.freebsd.org (216.115.101.225). =
 Connecting from IPs from local, private ISPs works fine.  Perhaps there =
 is an invalid redirect for Atlantic Canadian university IP blocks?
 >=20
 > % traceroute www.freebsd.org
 > traceroute to wfe0.ysv.freebsd.org (8.8.178.110), 64 hops max, 52 byte =
 packets
 > 1  GW81AD2000.Backbone.Dal.Ca (129.173.32.1)  0.870 ms  0.551 ms  =
 0.480 ms
 > 2  GigaPOP-gw.acorn-ns.Ca (198.166.1.17)  0.846 ms  0.758 ms  0.792 ms
 > 3  ISInet-GW.Backbone.Dal.Ca (198.166.1.38)  0.769 ms  0.740 ms  0.726 =
 ms
 > 4  ns-hlfx-asr002.ns.eastlink.ca (24.222.79.121)  1.261 ms  1.232 ms  =
 0.925 ms
 > 5  ns-hlfx-dr001.ns.eastlink.ca (24.215.101.245)  1.766 ms  1.638 ms  =
 1.842 ms
 > 6  ns-hlfx-br001.ns.eastlink.ca (24.215.101.221)  1.890 ms  1.774 ms  =
 1.727 ms
 > 7  xe-1-3-0.bos11.ip4.tinet.net (173.241.128.145)  9.129 ms  51.961 ms =
  16.959 ms
 > 8  xe-5-1-0.sjc10.ip4.tinet.net (89.149.185.161)  87.429 ms  86.623 ms
 >    xe-9-1-0.sjc10.ip4.tinet.net (89.149.184.53)  94.843 ms
 > 9  * * ge-0-3-8.pat1.sjc.yahoo.com (216.115.96.6)  99.273 ms
 > 10  routerer-pat1.freebsd.org (216.115.101.225)  99.996 ms  99.838 ms  =
 98.871 ms
 > 11  routerer-pat1.freebsd.org (216.115.101.225)  98.868 ms  99.718 ms =
 *
 > 12  * * *
 > 13  * * *
 > ...
 > 64  * * *
 
 FreeBSD is in the process of moving from one datacenter to another and I =
 switched www.FreeBSD.org to be served from the new one today. The raw =
 host "freebsd.org" is freefall.freebsd.org which was moved a bit longer =
 ago (1 month sounds right).
 
 So I think it's either a firewall in either end or an odd routing =
 problem.
 
 Anyone have obvious candidates ? :
 
 Connecting to www.dal.ca port 80 with an IP from our delegated /24 fails =
 with:
 
 # tcpdump -s0 -i bge0 host www.dal.ca
 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol =
 decode
 listening on bge0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes
 21:49:29.941767 IP routerer.FreeBSD.org.41224 > =
 kil-cq5-4w0.ITS.Dal.Ca.http: Flags [S], seq 997436128, win 65535, =
 options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 270875695 ecr 0], length 0
 21:49:32.940893 IP routerer.FreeBSD.org.41224 > =
 kil-cq5-4w0.ITS.Dal.Ca.http: Flags [S], seq 997436128, win 65535, =
 options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 270878695 ecr 0], length 0
 21:49:36.140885 IP routerer.FreeBSD.org.41224 > =
 kil-cq5-4w0.ITS.Dal.Ca.http: Flags [S], seq 997436128, win 65535, =
 options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 270881895 ecr 0], length 0
 21:49:39.340885 IP routerer.FreeBSD.org.41224 > =
 kil-cq5-4w0.ITS.Dal.Ca.http: Flags [S], seq 997436128, win 65535, =
 options [mss 1460], length 0
 21:49:42.540895 IP routerer.FreeBSD.org.41224 > =
 kil-cq5-4w0.ITS.Dal.Ca.http: Flags [S], seq 997436128, win 65535, =
 options [mss 1460], length 0
 21:49:45.740890 IP routerer.FreeBSD.org.41224 > =
 kil-cq5-4w0.ITS.Dal.Ca.http: Flags [S], seq 997436128, win 65535, =
 options [mss 1460], length 0
 21:49:51.940891 IP routerer.FreeBSD.org.41224 > =
 kil-cq5-4w0.ITS.Dal.Ca.http: Flags [S], seq 997436128, win 65535, =
 options [mss 1460], length 0
 
 But if I'm using the IP on our transit network it works just fine:
 
 21:50:58.046045 IP routerer-pat1.freebsd.org.35814 > =
 kil-cq5-4w0.ITS.Dal.Ca.http: Flags [S], seq 2306026374, win 65535, =
 options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 6,sackOK,TS val 270963800 ecr 0], length 0
 21:50:58.155918 IP kil-cq5-4w0.ITS.Dal.Ca.http > =
 routerer-pat1.freebsd.org.35814: Flags [S.], seq 4012957193, ack =
 2306026375, win 5792, options [mss 1380,sackOK,TS val 416382003 ecr =
 270963800,nop,wscale 7], length 0
 21:50:58.155963 IP routerer-pat1.freebsd.org.35814 > =
 kil-cq5-4w0.ITS.Dal.Ca.http: Flags [.], ack 1, win 1026, options =
 [nop,nop,TS val 270963910 ecr 416382003], length 0
 21:51:02.746528 IP kil-cq5-4w0.ITS.Dal.Ca.http > =
 routerer-pat1.freebsd.org.35814: Flags [S.], seq 4012957193, ack =
 2306026375, win 5792, options [mss 1380,sackOK,TS val 416386594 ecr =
 270963910,nop,wscale 7], length 0
 21:51:02.746562 IP routerer-pat1.freebsd.org.35814 > =
 kil-cq5-4w0.ITS.Dal.Ca.http: Flags [.], ack 1, win 1026, options =
 [nop,nop,TS val 270968500 ecr 416386594], length 0
 
 Since I already did them... a few traceroutes:
 
 Traceroute from the old one:
 
 [simon@red:~] traceroute www.dal.ca
 traceroute to kil-cq5-4w0.ITS.dal.ca (129.173.21.171), 64 hops max, 40 =
 byte packets
  1  vl-225.bas-b1.sp1.yahoo.com (69.147.83.3)  0.398 ms  0.289 ms  0.228 =
 ms
  2  ge-1-0-1.msr1.sp1.yahoo.com (209.131.32.30)  0.201 ms  0.196 ms  =
 0.183 ms
  3  ae-2-d161.pat2.sjc.yahoo.com (216.115.107.62)  0.829 ms
     ae-0-d141.pat2.pao.yahoo.com (216.115.107.50)  0.834 ms
     ae-1-d160.pat1.sjc.yahoo.com (216.115.107.56)  0.946 ms
  4  ae-3.pat1.pao.yahoo.com (216.115.101.34)  0.964 ms  1.184 ms
     ae-3.pat2.swp.yahoo.com (216.115.96.57)  19.416 ms
  5  ae-0.pat1.swp.yahoo.com (216.115.110.43)  19.550 ms  19.346 ms  =
 19.526 ms
  6  clgr2rtr2.canarie.ca (205.189.33.197)  108.554 ms  108.667 ms
     vncv1rtr2.canarie.ca (206.81.80.189)  26.030 ms
  7  toro1rtr2.canarie.ca (205.189.33.209)  108.755 ms  108.740 ms  =
 109.493 ms
  8  toro1rtr2.canarie.ca (205.189.33.209)  108.802 ms
     mtrl2rtr2.canarie.ca (205.189.33.223)  110.261 ms  109.952 ms
  9  hlfx1rtr2.canarie.ca (199.212.24.84)  116.929 ms
     mtrl2rtr2.canarie.ca (205.189.33.223)  113.690 ms  110.201 ms
 10  hlfx1rtr2.canarie.ca (199.212.24.84)  116.991 ms  116.898 ms *
 11  * * *
 
 [simon@admin:~] traceroute www.dal.ca
 traceroute to kil-cq5-4w0.ITS.dal.ca (129.173.21.171), 64 hops max, 52 =
 byte packets
  1  routerer (8.8.178.2)  0.708 ms  0.581 ms  0.675 ms
  2  ae-1-d188.pat1.sjc.yahoo.com (216.115.101.224)  1.818 ms  1.822 ms  =
 1.663 ms
  3  ae-6.pat1.swp.yahoo.com (216.115.100.94)  20.470 ms  20.569 ms  =
 20.523 ms
  4  * * *
  5  clgr2rtr2.canarie.ca (205.189.33.197)  107.807 ms  107.904 ms  =
 107.759 ms
  6  toro1rtr2.canarie.ca (205.189.33.209)  107.981 ms  108.130 ms  =
 108.106 ms
  7  mtrl2rtr2.canarie.ca (205.189.33.223)  108.661 ms  108.388 ms  =
 108.170 ms
  8  hlfx1rtr2.canarie.ca (199.212.24.84)  107.617 ms  107.620 ms  =
 107.279 ms
  9  * * *
 10  * * *
 11  * * *
 
 Just for reference for me from home to www.freebsd.org the last part is:
 
 10  4.68.111.242 (4.68.111.242)  166.288 ms
     4.68.63.158 (4.68.63.158)  139.719 ms
     64.215.195.213 (64.215.195.213)  149.850 ms
 11  ae14-20g.scr3.nyc1.gblx.net (67.17.72.109)  129.934 ms  103.820 ms  =
 113.754 ms
 12  ae4-20g.scr4.snv2.gblx.net (67.16.147.90)  179.863 ms  393.493 ms
     xe5-0-2-10g.scr3.snv2.gblx.net (67.16.165.50)  238.116 ms
 13  e5-3-40g.ar5.sjc2.gblx.net (67.17.72.14)  249.433 ms
     e8-1-20g.ar5.sjc2.gblx.net (67.16.145.118)  422.696 ms  198.738 ms
 14  yahoo.tengigabitethernet2-4.1189.ar3.sjc2.gblx.net (208.48.239.254)  =
 192.603 ms  198.490 ms
     yahoo-san-jose.tengig2-3.1189.ar3.sjc2.gblx.net (64.211.206.210)  =
 638.591 ms
 15  routerer-pat1.freebsd.org (216.115.101.225)  663.967 ms  499.559 ms  =
 280.826 ms
 16  wfe0.ysv.freebsd.org (8.8.178.110)  333.695 ms  482.018 ms  249.999 =
 ms
 
 --=20
 Simon L. B. Nielsen
 



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