From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 7 09:40:29 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE742B0AE2 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 09:40:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@evilham.com) Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (yggdrasil.evilham.com [IPv6:2a02:2770::216:3eff:fee1:cf9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48xMpP0j5Lz4MjG for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 09:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@evilham.com) Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by yggdrasil.evilham.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48xMpD3xLXzfMD for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 11:40:20 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=evilham.com; h=from:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=mail; bh=0/uCX+/q/ofvW7ijP6B53QXVpOg=; b=C1QXBP 3KLDWM8mMwvMYCwfZqW4AIoU+wEWR5hfdg4qqsZ5128z92iAqa7I615ieehHX/3R Kds8qaen4K8QMVboft6vNmETC6P2hvhvuQ4oy9yq3ETxkcCZs5IzV4eCH+UohEMo yyNT2b60MLpfeeCMckCsgrliGEFvJPjc73UrY= Received: from yggdrasil.evilham.com (unknown [IPv6:2a0a:e5c1:121:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by yggdrasil.evilham.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 48xMpC63wMzfMC for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2020 11:40:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Evilham To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question (fwd) References: In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2020 11:40:18 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48xMpP0j5Lz4MjG X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=evilham.com header.s=mail header.b=C1QXBP 3; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=evilham.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of contact@evilham.com designates 2a02:2770::216:3eff:fee1:cf9 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=contact@evilham.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.45 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_REJECT(0.00)[evilham.com:s=mail]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[evilham.com:-]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[evilham.com,none]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW_WITH_FAILURES(-0.50)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:196752, ipnet:2a02:2770::/32, country:NL]; IP_SCORE(-3.65)[ip: (-9.86), ipnet: 2a02:2770::/32(-4.70), asn: 196752(-3.70), country: NL(0.03)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2020 09:40:29 -0000 Hey, On dt., abr. 07 2020, Viktor Madarasz wrote: > viktormadarasz@sdf.org > SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 07:52:50 +0000 (UTC) > From: Viktor Madarasz > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Question > > I would like to contribute to FreeBSD. I can NOT code ( very > shallow C++ > knowledge I pretty much got confused the moment the object > oriented concepts > being brought in and the whole mindset ( way to think as a > programmer) always > confuses me :) ) > > So what else would be there for me? Documentation? or something > else? ( English > and Hungarian could work for me and maybe even Spanish but My > English and > Hungarian are way better :) ) Helping out with ports doesn't *usually* require programming per se. My approach to help out with limited time has been to help fix things I see that need fixing. Here is something I wrote about updating ports (with tons of links to things I wish I had known :-)) https://evilham.com/en/blog/2020-FreeBSD-updating-a-port-twisted-python/ Creating ports is similarly not much of a programming effort, so if you see something that is missing and would be desirable, you can look into it. If you can identify a similar piece of software (as in: same programming language, similar architecture, ...), you might be able to extrapolate from that other port to create your own; otherwise the porter's handbook is a good resource and generally just asking on #freebsd-ports might point you in the right direction. Documentation is indeed also a great way, just can't speak for that as much yet. > Another thing... There is No BSD User Group in the country where > I live-reside > (Spain) How could I create One? I guess its a good opportunity > to do so as > there is 0 here as I saw on the Website. As I speak / write > English, Spanish , > Hungarian I guess I could tie in to other BSD Groups with those > languages as > well... > > Anyone can point me to the good direction regarding these > things? Actually, I've been looking into starting something like this; though in my case more wider-Barcelona centric, to have physical meetings be easier for the post-COVID world. Probably those meetings would be kind of tri-lingual (a bit like PyBCN), to facilitate participation of local computer-people who might not be as well-versed in English. Depending on where you live in Spain, bilingual might suffice, just make sure not to exclude people on a language basis. For that, I registered some days ago freebsd.cat, haven't managed to do anything with it just yet. I also noticed freebsd.es exists, but it appears to be an abandoned effort; you might be able to get in touch with them and maybe do a friendly, mutually agreed, domain take over and revive it :-) (that would be pretty cool). As for how to do these things... It's tricky because it's something social and it's a bunch of *constant, reliable* work. During the past, say 15-20 episodes of https://bsdnow.tv, there have been quite a few mentions about how to start such an effort. (You'd have to look into e.g. the RSS feed and find those, but if you haven't yet, it's a good podcast worth listening regardless of these particular bits) At the very least it sounds like announcing you'll do such a thing here, probably on Twitter *and* fediverse, and shooting an email with enough head time to the BSD Now people is a decent way to start. Cheers, -- Evilham