From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 19:11:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE54E37B401; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [216.138.209.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E14743EA9; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:11:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@velocet.ca) Received: from trooper.velocet.ca (trooper.velocet.net [216.138.242.2]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1236138206; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by trooper.velocet.ca (Postfix, from userid 66) id 7B6ED745EE; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by canoe.velocet.net (Postfix, from userid 101) id CED74567627; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:56:02 -0400 (EDT) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15782.1410.760385.123801@canoe.velocet.net> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:56:02 -0400 To: Murray Stokely Cc: Daniel Lang , Murray Stokely , hubs@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.7 Download Statistics In-Reply-To: <20021010090635.K1982@freebsdmall.com> References: <20021010082732.G1982@freebsdmall.com> <20021010155247.GB20985@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <20021010090635.K1982@freebsdmall.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "Murray" == Murray Stokely writes: Murray> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 05:52:47PM +0200, Daniel Lang wrote: >> I think it will be difficult to get real numbers, but maybe its >> possible to get an idea or a trend. Murray> 1. Number of bytes transferred from ${dir} directory. Murray> 2. Number of files transferred from ${dir} directory. Murray> where ${dir} is /pub/FreeBSD, Murray> /pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE, the ISO images dirs, Murray> etc.. >> The question remains, whole ISO files? Just the install-iso? How >> about repeated downloads? Murray> Are repeated downloads substantial? I assumed they would be Murray> insignificant. It's a difficult problem for many distributions. We run a centrallized cvsup server for our organization (and anyone who uses our ISP) and the majority of our 200-ish deployed machines update via CVSUP. We keep our own install master that is largely disk-duplicated into new machines for install ... and the remaining installs come from a single download of the ISO that I do each release. I also offer free ISOs to anyone locally who expresses an interest in FreeBSD. I typically distribute 5 to 10 copies per release. ... It may help get a handle on numbers if people were encouraged to submit the number of FreeBSD hosts they run in their organization. I know that take-up on a proposal like this isn't 100%, but then the ftp stats aren't an accurate representation, either. However, if you also asked for a 'number of downloads' type number, you could compare the installations to the ftp to come up with a slightly better estimate. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://daveg.ca | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message