From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Jan 31 20:33:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10415 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 20:33:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA10407 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 20:33:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp id AA14355; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 13:32:51 +0900 Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id NAA04698; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 13:40:32 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199802010440.NAA04698@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Andrzej Bialecki , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: boot floppy banner In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 31 Jan 1998 08:47:58 PST." <4667.886265278@time.cdrom.com> References: <4667.886265278@time.cdrom.com> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 13:40:31 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe hackers" >> OTOH, this version is much better than previous one... so at least we're >> heading in good direction :-)) > >I believe the goal behind the current message was to eliminate all >those novice users saying "how do I boot off the 1st drive on my 2nd >controller?" - the information presented there may be cryptic, but >it's also pretty useful if you're totally lost as to what your device >name should be or how you can specify the partition and bios logical >drive# independently. "Hello, and welcome to FreeBSD!" is certainly >more friendly, but does very little to actually aid the user. :-) > > Jordan Well, I am not suggesting to replace every copy of boot.help on the hard drives. I am only proposing that boot.help on the "boot.flp" to be less cryptic. When you are installing FreeBSD for the first time, you don't have any bootable FreeBSD partition on any hard disk! The boot floppy is the only bootable FreeBSD system. I agree that the current help message should be displayed once the system is installed. If the user is upgrading, there is a bootable FreeBSD partition on the hard drive. But, what he wants is to start the installer on the boot floppy in this case too, isn't it? If he wants to boot the system from the existing partition, why on earth he sticks the boot floppy in the floppy drive? Kazu