From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 23:27:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B825FD2; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 23:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vps.amdmi3.ru (vps.amdmi3.ru [109.234.38.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB52D69; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 23:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hive.panopticon (unknown [213.148.20.85]) by vps.amdmi3.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81BEDB0622; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 02:27:15 +0300 (MSK) Received: from hades.panopticon (hades.panopticon [192.168.0.32]) by hive.panopticon (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB56679; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 02:27:08 +0300 (MSK) Received: by hades.panopticon (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4390720CE; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 02:27:11 +0300 (MSK) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 02:27:11 +0300 From: Dmitry Marakasov To: Slawa Olhovchenkov Subject: Re: svn commit: r281129 - head/etc Message-ID: <20150409232711.GZ21982@hades.panopticon> References: <201504060132.t361WRVe090234@svn.freebsd.org> <20150406065619.GH74532@zxy.spb.ru> <6A81B952-BA41-4FF2-9215-D7E69EB8C6FE@gmail.com> <20150406071640.GJ23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150406082553.GW64665@FreeBSD.org> <20150406084141.GK23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150406084937.GX64665@FreeBSD.org> <20150406085323.GL23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409215802.GY21982@hades.panopticon> <20150409220442.GQ8220@zxy.spb.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150409220442.GQ8220@zxy.spb.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , Gleb Smirnoff , "src-committers@freebsd.org" , Garrett Cooper X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 23:27:19 -0000 * Slawa Olhovchenkov (slw@zxy.spb.ru) wrote: > I am talk not about using or not using utf-8. > I am talk about unconditionaly forcing switch from non-utf8 to utf-8 > locale (FreeBSD-11 can be get not only be fresh install but and by > freebsd-update/source update on the live systems, with bunch files > witch content in koi8 and named in koi8). We have to switch sometime, and I say now is a good time. There's high chance that default login class uses UTF-8 locale at some point (PC-BSD had that for couple of years already afaik), so the issue is not limited to russian or russian-utf8. System update is not a problem at all - major branch switch implies some attention, and converting file encodings or tuning default locale is just a little part of it. Since the latter is always an option, there's nothing to talk about here. I don't think the project can lag behind and stay on crippled legacy solutions forever just because someone does not want to update. > Also, some config files (from ports) have raw 8-bit characters inside. They'll have to be converted based on OSVERSION/option. -- Dmitry Marakasov . 55B5 0596 FF1E 8D84 5F56 9510 D35A 80DD F9D2 F77D amdmi3@amdmi3.ru ..: jabber: amdmi3@jabber.ru http://amdmi3.ru