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Date:      Fri, 10 Apr 2015 02:27:11 +0300
From:      Dmitry Marakasov <amdmi3@amdmi3.ru>
To:        Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
Cc:        "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r281129 - head/etc
Message-ID:  <20150409232711.GZ21982@hades.panopticon>
In-Reply-To: <20150409220442.GQ8220@zxy.spb.ru>
References:  <201504060132.t361WRVe090234@svn.freebsd.org> <20150406065619.GH74532@zxy.spb.ru> <6A81B952-BA41-4FF2-9215-D7E69EB8C6FE@gmail.com> <20150406071640.GJ23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150406082553.GW64665@FreeBSD.org> <20150406084141.GK23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150406084937.GX64665@FreeBSD.org> <20150406085323.GL23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409215802.GY21982@hades.panopticon> <20150409220442.GQ8220@zxy.spb.ru>

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* Slawa Olhovchenkov (slw@zxy.spb.ru) wrote:

> I am talk not about using or not using utf-8.
> I am talk about unconditionaly forcing switch from non-utf8 to utf-8
> locale (FreeBSD-11 can be get not only be fresh install but and by
> freebsd-update/source update on the live systems, with bunch files
> witch content in koi8 and named in koi8).

We have to switch sometime, and I say now is a good time. There's
high chance that default login class uses UTF-8 locale at some point
(PC-BSD had that for couple of years already afaik), so the issue
is not limited to russian or russian-utf8.

System update is not a problem at all - major branch switch implies
some attention, and converting file encodings or tuning default
locale is just a little part of it. Since the latter is always an
option, there's nothing to talk about here.

I don't think the project can lag behind and stay on crippled legacy
solutions forever just because someone does not want to update.

> Also, some config files (from ports) have raw 8-bit characters inside.

They'll have to be converted based on OSVERSION/option.

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