From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Dec 17 2:19: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E8737B421; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 02:19:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-319.wobline.de [212.68.71.40]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id fBHAIc726014; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:18:38 +0100 Received: from tisys.org (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBHAK5X15821; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:20:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: (from nils@localhost) by tisys.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBHAJBT43459; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:19:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:18:35 +0100 From: Nils Holland To: Brett Glass Cc: Greg Lehey , Terry Lambert , "Gary W. Swearingen" , hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, "Brandon D. Valentine" , Hiten Pandya , chat@FreeBSD.ORG, phk@FreeBSD.ORG, Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: IBM's intentions with JFS (was: IBM suing (was: RMS Suing was [SUGGESTION] - JFS for FreeBSD)) Message-ID: <20011217111835.A43375@tisys.org> References: <3C186381.6AB07090@yahoo.com> <3C1875D6.5DE4F996@mindspring.com> <3C186381.6AB07090@yahoo.com> <20011214122837.O3448@monorchid.lemis.com> <3C19807D.C441F084@mindspring.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011214175450.02da2a90@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20011215232233.00e74cc0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20011216221810.031b6820@localhost> <20011217163427.A2885@monorchid.lemis.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011217001345.00e26280@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011217001345.00e26280@localhost>; from brett@lariat.org on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 12:17:42AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD jodie.ncptiddische.net 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-Machine-Uptime: 11:05AM up 4:25, 1 user, load averages: 0.17, 0.06, 0.05 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 12:17:42AM -0700, Brett Glass stood up and spoke: > > >I interpret this to mean "after linking". It would appear to be the > >kernel binary which falls under the GPL. About the only obligation of > >the FreeBSD project would be to make the corresponding source code > >available. > > Not true. The FreeBSD Project would be obliged to license the entire > kernel -- source and binary -- under the GPL. Well, though I currently don't care much about the JFS thing, I think that we already have some GPL thing in the kernel: There seems to a GNU fpu emulator that is under the GPL and can be used instead of the (BSD licensed) standard FPU emulator. I don't think that GNU FPU is on by default in GENERIC, but I guess that JFS might not be either. Therefore, theoretically, as the GNU FPU code has not caused any problems, why should JFS code do? I thought that you were talking about making FreeBSD support the JFS filesystem, and not making FreeBSD *depend* on JFS, so that JFS becomes the main and only filesystem available. Consequently, I don't see any problems here. *If* a possible JFS port would require us to license the whole kernel under the GPL, then I guess the inclusion of the GNU FPU code already does that now. Greetings Nils -- Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message