From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 24 15:32:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A494716A41F; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:32:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from b.candler@pobox.com) Received: from thorn.pobox.com (thorn.pobox.com [208.210.124.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F9143D45; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:32:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from b.candler@pobox.com) Received: from thorn (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thorn.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C10E5; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 10:32:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mappit.local.linnet.org (212-74-113-67.static.dsl.as9105.com [212.74.113.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by thorn.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B902DA2; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 10:32:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists by mappit.local.linnet.org with local (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1EqBNa-00019v-Hz; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:32:18 +0000 Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:32:18 +0000 From: Brian Candler To: "Patrick M. Hausen" Message-ID: <20051224153218.GA4424@uk.tiscali.com> References: <200512231136.12471.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <200512230851.jBN8pFVv060458@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200512230851.jBN8pFVv060458@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, current , Jo Rhett Subject: Re: Fast releases demand binary updates.. (Was: Release schedule for 2006 ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:32:27 -0000 On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 09:51:15AM +0100, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > Any suggestions for an alternative to NFS if your 'client' servers > are located "all over the world" and you want to installworld across > the Internet? I was planning to use NFS/TCP secured by IPSec transport > mode, but anything less complicated would be greatly appreciated ;-) > > Anyone using ggated/ggatec for that purpose? I think that would not work unless you had a second FreeBSD installation on the remote machine and rebooted into that while you were upgrading the first. That's because you can't safely modify a block filesystem while it's mounted by someone else (even read-only). You could try tunneling NFS/TCP through ssh port forwarding. Never tried it myself, and there may be some gotchas. Linux has an extremely neat solution for this (sshfs) but I don't know of anything comparable in the BSD world. sshfs uses 'Fuse', a plug-in architecture which allows filesystems to run in userland. I believe it makes an sftp connection to the remote host, and then exposes it as if it were a real filesystem. Regards, Brian.