From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 28 09:28:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F75B1065678 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:28:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: from mail-oa0-f54.google.com (mail-oa0-f54.google.com [209.85.219.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA408FC0A for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:28:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by oagn9 with SMTP id n9so1734181oag.13 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:28:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=YXxYW3UygFvhGdGdjjAosDpHrkV6Xvg+utyFJcOFwA0=; b=O2YfHeEik3a1fBAtXHFjAMtQV8pzEPDvihVFptJ0lf5IXlCrJd6WwkizcLdCNNzWTi m7fA4NPrp7PyOTpnxz0pxz8KxHkidinPM/fevZHplxDy++gjKsRYxv3tvpS4ULjycvIs EiZCivsmRS1Vtpye5HsrL8lA6vbxVgqpc94QikAvZD2M/mnvGsjoGBac77XEeDnjGH9+ o3PDYey6BNgkWrziCDSyJUd9+JiDKQi6uCZYJ1oQO/iwIjMPpBDmyL1rDcePgn4qO8o2 d0wwADdeVnq+KiaMr5wiwmOq/io1AJKaPpZOnlh79qbFkEBOHVVAyfN/ClzL2xixdut7 7EGg== Received: by 10.60.172.236 with SMTP id bf12mr5347410oec.23.1348824526841; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bhuda.mired.org (ip72-200-195-210.ok.ok.cox.net. [72.200.195.210]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ec1sm7991334obc.2.2012.09.28.02.28.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:28:43 -0500 From: Mike Meyer To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120928042843.6a157e78@bhuda.mired.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20120916120041.391C41065680@hub.freebsd.org> <505624A9.7040508@hesiod.org> Organization: Meyer Consulting X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmSGtFQsfOMqkQHPhVxdr9nL7IOMnAFqwwu4jMndMyThX3PMDAmOj/K7/xFcfncfgXF00o+ Subject: Re: gpart is junk X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:28:48 -0000 On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:19:12 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> but still not anywhere as readable as bsdlabel. > > I did specifically say 'machine readable'. The XML is well-formed, > XML is stupid. everything you can do with XML can be better described > using "ancient" style text format This statement is meaningless. XML *is* an '"ancient" style text format' - only with a (very large) collection of standards describing the format, and an (even larger) collection of software for processing text in that format. And "better" is a judgment call. For instance, it's hard for me to consider any text format that doesn't support both external validation and autocompletion in popular editors as "better" than XML. Of course, those do require a schema of some kind, and I can't seem to find one for the document in kern.geom.confxml. http://www.mired.org/ Independent Software developer/SCM consultant, email for more information. O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org