From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 10 12:51:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: arch@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D5216A41C; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:51:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp3.server.rpi.edu (smtp3.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F15943D49; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:51:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp3.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j5ACpqtB022901; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:51:53 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20050610090610.GA30852@FreeBSD.org> References: <53d4293a37f280317d52338c2fc6fc6d@FreeBSD.org> <20050610090610.GA30852@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:51:51 -0400 To: Eivind Eklund , John Baldwin From: Garance A Drosehn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) on 128.113.2.3 Cc: arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Death to toor X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:51:55 -0000 At 9:06 AM +0000 6/10/05, Eivind Eklund wrote: >On Thu, Jun 09, 2005, John Baldwin wrote: > > Is there any good reason to keep the toor account around nowadays? > >I support its death. I have no strong opinion whether it should stay or go, but I thought one purpose for it was to allow an alternative to root if /bin/csh was hosed. I guess you could just boot up into single-user mode in that case, but I thought the historical reason for toor were for some things like that. It was not just that people didn't know how to change the shell for root... But I don't mind if it goes, because to me it does not seem useful until you set a password for it. And if you're going to customize the password file to set that password, then you can just as easily add whatever alternate-root userids that you personally want. So having 'toor' in the base system doesn't do much for me. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA