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Date:      Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:02:13 -0500
From:      Tony Wells <awells@journalstar.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: How Is The FeeBSD OS Like and Different Than Say Redhat or Suse  LINUX
Message-ID:  <3AE5E9D4.30C0C090@journalstar.com>
References:  <BHEOJOMCFODELNKHPGJECEENCEAA.bvagnoni@speakeasy.net>

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"SPEAKEASY " wrote:
> 
> Dear All;
> 
> Thanks for everything, I think I'm going to wait a bit before I try FreeBSD,
> though I may not. Unfortunately, a friend just gave me a copy of Suse 7.1
> Professional with the 2.4 kernel, and KDE 2.1 (kicks arse, very impressive)
> and it's a very very tight OS, makes me feel like Linux is about to go prime
> time when I see this kind of user friendliness in LINUX based OS.
> 
> I personally never understood Redhat's appeal, Suse has always been clearly
> the better OS as far as what you get for your money. Though Redhat is more
> available for support, and they are American based if that's important to
> you. For me it's always been when comparing Redhat and Suse I always go back
> to the Word Perfect and MS Word comparison. How a command line based word
> processor like Word Perfect (where you had to have 3 hands and get your feet
> involved in it's weird syntax of commands e.g. control alt shift 9 k 4 just
> to highlight text) could become dominant over MS Word's drag and drop
> graphical interface is beyond me.

We emacs users are proud of the jazz chords we can form on our
keyboards. :-)

> 
> Word Perfect had a inferior product but a very effective marketing campaign,
> and if it wasn't for MS monopoly on the OS world they still be number one
> and we would still be doing cryptic commands from the keyboard. This is how
> I feel about the Redhat Suse comparison, Redhat has an inferior product but
> a marketing campaign where Suse has no marketing campaign and a better
> product. Lets face it no one outside of the Linux world has heard of Suse,
> yet go out and try there new 7.1 compare it to Redhat interface and it just
> pails in comparison.
> 
> I don't want to turn this into a big debate and or a flame war, I'm just
> telling you all how I feel and why I've decided after you have all given me
> you precious time and effort which I'm extremely grateful for why I'm not
> trying FreeBSd at this time.
> 
> Again thanks for everything your input was most welcome and lets not turn
> this into a big debate.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Brian
> 
> pS I was able to play SOF with a Voodoo 5 card, 633 Celeron, smoothly and
> with all the graphic control sliders set to maximum under Suse 7.1, but not
> under Redhat 7.0, in fact no setting enables me to play the game it was
> totally unplayable with Redhat even with the latest Mesa3d.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Hesford [mailto:ajh3@chmod.ath.cx]
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 7:24 PM
> To: Kent Stewart
> Cc: Andrew Hesford; SPEAKEASY <bvagnoni>; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: How Is The FeeBSD OS Like and Different Than Say Redhat or
> Suse LINUX
> 
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 01:49:13PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote:
> >
> >
> > Andrew Hesford wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 03:45:33PM -0400, SPEAKEASY <bvagnoni> wrote:
> > > > Dear Everyone;
> > > >
> > > > What about compatiability with the Linux world will I be able to run
> stuff
> > > > compiled for Linux on freebsd without to much trouble?
> > > >
> > > > What about hardware compatibility just from reading the package it
> seems
> > > > that freebsd seems to support more hardware, is this true?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > >
> > > I've never had trouble with Linux programs under FreeBSD. You might not
> > > get the newest games running perfectly, but hey, this isn't an operating
> > > system for playing sophisticated games. In fact, that's what windows is
> > > good for: games. Linux is only half-assed for games.
> >
> > I have a program that I am interested in called Wordtrans. It translates
> > words between language pairs. The maintainers produce rpm's and deb's.
> When
> > it goes to install, it can't find some library's. I can use locate and
> they
> > are there. I have the source and it will build but with a lot of manual
> > work. It is setup to build Qt/KDE modules. There are problems building the
> > KDE-2 modules but I am currently using the Qt-2 module.
> >
> > How did you deal with the dependancies when you tried to use Linux
> programs?
> > Cleaning up the makefiles will take time that using the rpm's would avoid.
> > That is only true if I can install them.
> >
> > The default languages are spanish<>english and german<>english but they
> > really aren't limited to these two pairs. You can turn on "watch
> clipboard"
> > and it will translate what you select with the mouse.
> >
> > Kent
> 
> Truth be told, I've only installed linux programs from the ports tree;
> all dependencies are already satisfied.
> 
> You can get rpm running, I believe I have it installed (it was required
> for linux realplayer). Then, provided you have all the mandatory
> packages, you should be able to install them without trouble.
> 
> The only thing you want to check is that linux packages are installed in
> /usr/compat/linux/usr rather than /usr... you wouldn't want linux stuff
> overwriting native FreeBSD stuff.
> 
> I don't know about funning dpkg... I don't necessarily see any problem
> with it, though.
> 
> --
> Andrew Hesford
> ajh3@chmod.ath.cx
> 
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