From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Feb 16 19:23:33 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AD6545626 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 19:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@dismail.de) Received: from mx1.dismail.de (mx1.dismail.de [78.46.223.134]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx1.dismail.de", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Dg9qm5KRBz3Cg8 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 19:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@dismail.de) Received: from mx1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id f00d3ff7; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:23:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de ( [10.240.26.12]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 0d48f46a; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:23:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 7e41653f; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:23:30 +0100 (CET) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 3d018ac3 (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:23:29 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 14:23:26 -0500 From: LuMiWa To: Pete Wright Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: laptops Message-ID: <20210216142326.4483ce68@dismail.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20210216134229.773fde3d@dismail.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Dg9qm5KRBz3Cg8 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dismail.de:s=20190914]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[dismail.de:dkim]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.46.223.134]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dismail.de,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[78.46.223.134:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:78.46.0.0/15, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 19:23:33 -0000 On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 11:00:47 -0800 Pete Wright wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 2/16/21 10:42 AM, LuMiWa via freebsd-questions wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I did search FreeBSD Wiki/laptops but I didn't find the answer. I > > like to buy Thinkpad W541 or W550s (prefer W541) but I am not sure > > if will work on FreeBSD. I want it to connect external monitor > > which going through Nvidia graphics card which Optimus driver > > supposed it works on FreeBSD 13. I found that installation works on > > W520 and 530. > I have a different Thinkpad with Optimus graphics - a P43s.=C2=A0 It > mostly works, but have been pretty underwhelmed by the hybrid > graphics of Optimus systems.=C2=A0 Not just with FreeBSD, but from what I > gather its suboptimal on Linux as well. >=20 > To get it working on FreeBSD there is an open PR* that gets things=20 > working, and I can drive specific apps with the Nvidia GPU (via the=20 > "optirun" binary).=C2=A0 But there is a bit of level of effort getting it > to work until we can get this PR over the finish line since I > maintain a branch of the ports tree to just support the diffs in this > PR. >=20 > One other issue I have is with the overall design of the Optimus > design, the GPU is used to offload processing but the display is > still driven by the Intel i915 GPU.=C2=A0 Depending on your use-case this > may lead to reduced performance.=C2=A0 All in all I am very happy with > this thinkpad, but if I had a choice I would have chosen a system > with dedicated Nvidia or i915 GPU's rather than this hybrid approach. >=20 >=20 > Cheers, > -pete >=20 > *https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D192617 >=20 Thank you very much. --=20 =E2=80=9CTwo things awe me most, the starry sky above me and the moral law within me.=E2=80=9D Immanuel Kant