From nobody Sat Oct 8 21:40:38 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4MlJWj6hcHz4f72V for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2022 21:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "holgerdanske.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4MlJWh1bmBz3Nq2 for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2022 21:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=holgerdanske.com; s=nov-20210719-112354; t=1665265239; bh=/T6WDLtKePQObY3INqEkkhG2tZw/5rGroGZRGQX11Cw=; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:User-Agent:Subject: Content-Language:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Kul4SZDsndKZpAs6G82gjsKCqjJucuYA8fKJWcsfcZ/zuHA+FeZLKB9XRr5nNgbCe /6EpJsLdRSjEHnX3CKZ6rJtQG8UZqDvZ4O7SETDODe0n5N6lkl7fYo2FQGi2jKtyZD 7I4fkm5owuD21yGSqb/SeVpEao7SaEK5aur1ho0Bm3qjw6RJTGyzxPlNVMJf+R6xqy Z5N+p1ZqFNyLgOnLa+MvKks1XO+rHL1RAU20BHVQbeRARngzhVXWuwhWw9JBIeMlgv x7jk3er+7Ft9fY7f1bixzbEgcXQKC2N++7pGIbw1PjZ5YhzJq+zFbsnNB6CcLdegTX IEQmJtQbfRBnmcFvsK6QDkcB7wNV03SNu9e9Ja8yeEMr3E6UCNcfc0Zd0CrTbsA4fz hx5NrfbLjSZt5hckQ+u5CGv7j1VKd+YF8nuUhfwHMvfHTAjbz1yIg5enP75XYmuV8K /QtUkbna7QnLfaVzE9JzPC97/g2MhiF9NqfVRbJZj5dhXGH6Ea2WJATgkA7orDtgm+ lhFdUKTlcZULuSIIupeC0sP5m62Pz+5SffY60x9uhKYOLrQVYqrnFJOgGRKp1369Li BHu59zljAcMlxoUVyQmA7RqdMMfwlPbu6X4xy+AS0HJtjiwoWdv14n0fjwXBsdDrIn rP7KEcBqDYkeKZ4UMtUdMYbM= Received: from 99.100.19.101 (99-100-19-101.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLSv1.3:Kx=any:Au=any:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2022 14:40:39 -0700 Message-ID: <3da3d329-a19d-51cd-0f78-ef77dbf66bfe@holgerdanske.com> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 14:40:38 -0700 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.13.0 Subject: Re: pkg upgrade vs building from source Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: From: David Christensen In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4MlJWh1bmBz3Nq2 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=holgerdanske.com header.s=nov-20210719-112354 header.b=Kul4SZDs; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=holgerdanske.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com designates 184.105.128.27 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[holgerdanske.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[holgerdanske.com:s=nov-20210719-112354]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[holgerdanske.com:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/8/22 08:35, paul beard wrote: > My skepticism over pkg doing what I expect grows after recent events. > I allowed [pkg] to upgrade postfix the other day and discovered that it no longer worked; > How do other people manage this? I have operated a FreeBSD SOHO server 24x7 for 3+ years, starting with FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64, I strive to keep my systems as simple and "official" as possible. I have never seen any problems that I could attribute to freebsd-update(1) or pkg(1). My upgrade mantra is: # freebsd-update fetch install # pkg update # pkg upgrade # pkg autoremove # pkg clean On 10/8/22 13:18, paul beard wrote: > On 10/8/22 11:11, Graham Perrin wrote: >> Which version of FreeBSD, exactly? >> > FreeBSD www.paulbeard.org 12.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 12.3-RELEASE r371126 GENERIC > i386 > > >> Packages from latest, or quarterly? >> > Hm…whatever pkg update pulls >> >> freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU >> > See above. For comparison: 2022-10-08 14:03:04 toor@f3 ~ # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU 12.3-RELEASE-p6 12.3-RELEASE-p6 12.3-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD f3.tracy.holgerdanske.com 12.3-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 12.3-RELEASE-p6 GENERIC amd64 1203000 1203000 I do not see any freebsd-version(1) output in your output, above. I do not see a patch level in your uname(1) output, above. The most obvious difference is that you are running i386 and I am running amd64. That is not supposed to matter. > pkg -vv | grep -e url -e enabled -e priority > > url : "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:i386/quarterly > ", > enabled : yes, > priority : 0, For comparison: 2022-10-08 14:03:12 toor@f3 ~ # pkg -vv | grep -e url -e enabled -e priority url : "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:amd64/quarterly", enabled : yes, priority : 0, David