From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 12:10:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E1F37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.reallynicehosting.com (silver.reallynicehosting.com [216.40.238.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E1C43F3F for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:10:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hosting@reallynicehosting.com) Received: from bigblackhole (ts46-01-qdr64.astra.or.charter.com [66.190.246.64]) (authenticated (0 bits))h5GJ7bb25085 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:07:37 -0700 From: "Jesse Wilson" Sender: "RN Hosting" To: Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:12:08 -0700 Message-ID: <00d801c3343b$2f2bcba0$6501a8c0@bigblackhole> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <20030616190027.5B1BF37B405@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Did you guys get a spam email with subject 'Make extra income X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:10:34 -0000 Spammers never go through the effort of personally harvesting e-mail addresses. They simply have bots crawling the web picking up e-mail addresses off of the different websites. If the FreeBSD mailing list is mirrored on the web the e-mail addresses need to be salted so that bots can not recognize them as addresses. Also, spammers never send the e-mail with a real e-mail address in the from line either. Most of the time, most to all of the headers are forged. So the name and e-mail address that it was sent from probably aren't the same as what the spammer would be subscribed to the FreeBSD list with if he actually was subscribed to it anyway. My only effective way of blocking spam is to use unique e-mail addresses like you were doing with the freebsd@ one and then blocking those unique ones once they start getting spam. Once an address starts getting nailed it's on spam databases everywhere and so it's done for. Jesse Message: 1 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 01:48:36 +0300 From: "PsYxAkIaS (FreeBSD)" Subject: Did you guys get a spam email with subject 'Make extra income from home gnk' To: Message-ID: <002801c33390$432d8630$0200a8c0@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" Heya, i'm using freebsd@psyxakias.com ONLY to this maillist, noone else has it.. and i received a spam email from yaydMike Bloggins to make extra income blabla. He's probably member of this maillist or maybe saw our emails at the web (the maillist is mirrored on web too. right?) I just felt to report it. .Thanks