From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 1 15:24:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7C516A9D7 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:24:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F17243D6D for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:24:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin04-en2 [10.13.10.149]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout08/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k51FOF8Q015181; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 08:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.251] (pool-68-160-242-211.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.242.211]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin04/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id k51FODZ5026589 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 1 Jun 2006 08:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <447F069C.4000002@mac.com> Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:24:12 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: danial_thom@yahoo.com References: <20060601144509.41121.qmail@web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060601144509.41121.qmail@web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Recommendation for 1000BASE-SX card? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:24:18 -0000 Danial Thom wrote: [ ... ] >> I'm tempted to set a Followup-to: header to >> -chat or maybe /dev/null... > > What exactly is wrong with all of you people anyway? Why do people ask rhetorical questions? We're not you, evidently. Invert the question, and I get an answer that makes sense. Invert the answer? You don't understand the point, perhaps? Very well, let me put it another way: if your opinions about what's wrong differ from most other people, you might do better to rely on a discussion involving facts rather than opinions. I mention this because some people regard their own opinions so highly that they don't seem to be aware that other approaches exist and might even prove effective. > Clearly there are drivers that are well > supported and drivers that aren't. There are > people out there trying to run their businesses > and you seem to want to pretend that everything > is just peachy and that everything can be tweaked > and tuned a bit to be usable. I don't know about either the OP or your situation(s), but I'm generally of the opinion that FreeBSD works just fine, most of the time, on most hardware, without any specific tweaking or tuning to be entirely usable. That's true of some other platforms, such as Apple hardware and MacOS X, or even Sun/SPARC boxes, as well. YMMV. If you have specific problems or a FreeBSD-driver to Windows-driver performance comparison, providing #'s and enough details to reproduce would be helpful. Writing random flames about specific people is not helpful. [ ...EOT, at least for me... ] -- -Chuck