From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 7 00:04:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56268106564A for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 00:04:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1740F8FC16 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 00:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-59-134.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.59.134]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7663B3CE9B; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:04:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7704H2m002178; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:04:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:04:16 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Manolis Kiagias Message-Id: <20090807020416.b7c0ddcf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4A7B62BF.9050102@otenet.gr> References: <945518.43400.qm@web65507.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4A7B62BF.9050102@otenet.gr> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, James Phillips , Neal Hogan Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: > upgrade 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:04:24 -0000 On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:09:51 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Windows experience won't help much - mainly due to the fact Windows > forces the users (and admins) to a completely different way of thinking > than FreeBSD. That's true. It's even hard to communicate with "'Windows' admins" because of a completey different and misleading terminology - and sadly often the lack of understanding what they're talking about. > The various wizards abstract way too many parts of the > system, to the point where you can configure services you don't really > understand (i.e. a DNS server is a few clicks away and there are many > 'recommended' defaults along the way). Insecure mode: This is the mode you want. Select it NOW! :-) > This is mostly not possible in > FreeBSD. You do need some level of understanding before making a > particular feature to work, though you are not expected to be an expert > on the subject. The level of course varies with the feature (sendmail is > orders of magnitude more difficult than NFS). Yes. As I said (elsewhere), FreeBSD is a multi-purpose OS. It does not know what you are intending to use it for, and it doesn't make any assumptions. So you have to communicate your requirements to the system. This requires a certain knowledge, of course. > Linux experience will definitely help. As long as your Linux experience includes basic UNIX (quite generic) knowledge. If you're only familiar with clicking in a pre-installed KDE, it's not much better than "Windows". > For DVD burning (from the command line, I assume) use the > sysutils/dvd+rw-tools port. If using an atapi burner, load the atapicam > driver at startup by adding atapicam_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf. I forgot to mention this. You are correct of course. > This will create a /dev/cd0 from your /dev/acd0 device (it emulates a > SCSI device). To conform with the growisofs manual, you could symlink it to /dev/dvd using the setting link acd0 cdrom in /etc/devfs.conf. Check for permissions to the files that are needed with burning commands - the ordinary user is usually not allowed to access these files in the needed way (due to security considerations). For example, you can put own cd0 root:operator perm cd0 0664 own xpt0 root:operator perm xpt0 0660 own pass0 root:operator perm pass0 0660 into the file mentioned above and add your user to the operator group (using the pw command). Once taken the time to set things up, they make you happy running for a lifetime. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...