Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 14:52:33 -0700 From: paul beard <paulbeard@gmail.com> To: David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg upgrade vs building from source Message-ID: <CAMtcK2qLsodE2QSE7uLZkoRRo7ogHNmfHGJAHTR9g2ZP8HgpfQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3da3d329-a19d-51cd-0f78-ef77dbf66bfe@holgerdanske.com> References: <CAMtcK2rPSxd0DignXvzw%2BnNc1U1iYpBjGpN%2BtqA4zevUO4qkQA@mail.gmail.com> <e4544587-50bb-55e8-3284-58a76b3a69f7@freebsd.org> <CAMtcK2rp2JLHpWJbQHv1DQBB8MS3=ro9hbJF0orUEK3rqJ5xLw@mail.gmail.com> <3da3d329-a19d-51cd-0f78-ef77dbf66bfe@holgerdanske.com>
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freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU
12.3-RELEASE-p6
12.3-RELEASE
12.3-RELEASE-p7
FreeBSD www.paulbeard.org 12.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 12.3-RELEASE r371126 GENERIC
i386 1203000 1203000
pkg -vv | grep -e url -e enabled -e priority
url : "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:i386/quarterly
",
enabled : yes,
priority : 0,
On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 2:41 PM David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com=
>
wrote:
> On 10/8/22 08:35, paul beard wrote:
> > My skepticism over pkg doing what I expect grows after recent events.
>
> > I allowed [pkg] to upgrade postfix the other day and discovered that
> it no longer worked;
>
> > How do other people manage this?
>
>
> I have operated a FreeBSD SOHO server 24x7 for 3+ years, starting with
> FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64, I strive to keep my systems as simple and
> "official" as possible. I have never seen any problems that I could
> attribute to freebsd-update(1) or pkg(1).
>
>
> My upgrade mantra is:
>
> # freebsd-update fetch install
>
> # pkg update
>
> # pkg upgrade
>
> # pkg autoremove
>
> # pkg clean
>
>
> On 10/8/22 13:18, paul beard wrote:
> > On 10/8/22 11:11, Graham Perrin wrote:
> >> Which version of FreeBSD, exactly?
> >>
> > FreeBSD www.paulbeard.org 12.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 12.3-RELEASE r371126
> GENERIC
> > i386
> >
> >
> >> Packages from latest, or quarterly?
> >>
> > Hm=E2=80=A6whatever pkg update pulls
> >>
> >> freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU
> >>
> > See above.
>
>
> For comparison:
>
> 2022-10-08 14:03:04 toor@f3 ~
> # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU
> 12.3-RELEASE-p6
> 12.3-RELEASE-p6
> 12.3-RELEASE-p7
> FreeBSD f3.tracy.holgerdanske.com 12.3-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD
> 12.3-RELEASE-p6 GENERIC amd64 1203000 1203000
>
>
> I do not see any freebsd-version(1) output in your output, above.
>
>
> I do not see a patch level in your uname(1) output, above.
>
>
> The most obvious difference is that you are running i386 and I am
> running amd64. That is not supposed to matter.
>
>
> > pkg -vv | grep -e url -e enabled -e priority
> >
> > url :
> "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:i386/quarterly
> > ",
> > enabled : yes,
> > priority : 0,
>
>
> For comparison:
>
> 2022-10-08 14:03:12 toor@f3 ~
> # pkg -vv | grep -e url -e enabled -e priority
> url :
> "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:amd64/quarterly",
> enabled : yes,
> priority : 0,
>
>
> David
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU<br>12.3-RELEASE-p6<br>12=
.3-RELEASE<br>12.3-RELEASE-p7<br>FreeBSD <a href=3D"http://www.paulbeard.or=
g">www.paulbeard.org</a> 12.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 12.3-RELEASE r371126 GENERIC =
=C2=A0i386 1203000 1203000<br><div><br></div><div>pkg -vv | grep -e url -e =
enabled -e priority<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 url =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
=C2=A0 : "pkg+<a href=3D"http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:i386/quart=
erly">http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:i386/quarterly</a>",<br>=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 enabled =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : yes,<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 priorit=
y =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: 0,<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 8, 20=
22 at 2:41 PM David Christensen <<a href=3D"mailto:dpchrist@holgerdanske=
.com">dpchrist@holgerdanske.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;bo=
rder-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
On 10/8/22 08:35, paul beard wrote:<br>
=C2=A0> My skepticism over pkg doing what I expect grows after recent ev=
ents.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0> I allowed [pkg] to upgrade postfix the other day and discovered =
that <br>
it no longer worked;<br>
<br>
=C2=A0> How do other people manage this?<br>
<br>
<br>
I have operated a FreeBSD SOHO server 24x7 for 3+ years, starting with <br>
FreeBSD-11.2-RELEASE-amd64,=C2=A0 I strive to keep my systems as simple and=
<br>
"official" as possible.=C2=A0 I have never seen any problems that=
I could <br>
attribute to freebsd-update(1) or pkg(1).<br>
<br>
<br>
My upgrade mantra is:<br>
<br>
# freebsd-update fetch install<br>
<br>
# pkg update<br>
<br>
# pkg upgrade<br>
<br>
# pkg autoremove<br>
<br>
# pkg clean<br>
<br>
<br>
On 10/8/22 13:18, paul beard wrote:<br>
=C2=A0> On 10/8/22 11:11, Graham Perrin wrote:<br>
=C2=A0>> Which version of FreeBSD, exactly?<br>
=C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0> FreeBSD <a href=3D"http://www.paulbeard.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">www.paulbeard.org</a> 12.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 12.3-RELEASE r=
371126 <br>
GENERIC<br>
=C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0i386<br>
=C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0>> Packages from latest, or quarterly?<br>
=C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0> Hm=E2=80=A6whatever pkg update pulls<br>
=C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0>> freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU<br>
=C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0> See above.<br>
<br>
<br>
For comparison:<br>
<br>
2022-10-08 14:03:04 toor@f3 ~<br>
# freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU<br>
12.3-RELEASE-p6<br>
12.3-RELEASE-p6<br>
12.3-RELEASE-p7<br>
FreeBSD <a href=3D"http://f3.tracy.holgerdanske.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank">f3.tracy.holgerdanske.com</a> 12.3-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD <br>
12.3-RELEASE-p6 GENERIC=C2=A0 amd64 1203000 1203000<br>
<br>
<br>
I do not see any freebsd-version(1) output in your output, above.<br>
<br>
<br>
I do not see a patch level in your uname(1) output, above.<br>
<br>
<br>
The most obvious difference is that you are running i386 and I am <br>
running amd64.=C2=A0 That is not supposed to matter.<br>
<br>
<br>
=C2=A0> pkg -vv | grep -e url -e enabled -e priority<br>
=C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 url=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
=C2=A0: <br>
"pkg+<a href=3D"http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:i386/quarterly" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:i386/qu=
arterly</a><br>
=C2=A0> ",<br>
=C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 enabled=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: y=
es,<br>
=C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 priority=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : 0,<br>
<br>
<br>
For comparison:<br>
<br>
2022-10-08 14:03:12 toor@f3 ~<br>
# pkg -vv | grep -e url -e enabled -e priority<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0url=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: <b=
r>
"pkg+<a href=3D"http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:amd64/quarterly" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:12:amd64/q=
uarterly</a>",<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0enabled=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: yes,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0priority=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : 0,<br>
<br>
<br>
David<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
class=3D"gmail_signature">Paul Beard / <a href=3D"http://www.paulbeard.org=
/" target=3D"_blank">www.paulbeard.org/</a><br></div>
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