From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 9 13:00:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA27144 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.id.net (mail.id.net [199.125.1.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA27065 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.id.net (rls@server.id.net [199.125.1.10]) by mail.id.net (8.7.5/ID-Net) with ESMTP id QAA18688; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:00:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rls@localhost) by server.id.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA02267; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:59:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Shady Message-Id: <199610091959.PAA02267@server.id.net> Subject: Re: Question about networks In-Reply-To: from Bradley Dunn at "Oct 9, 96 10:49:09 am" To: dunn@harborcom.net (Bradley Dunn) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Cc: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > : What do you think of this ? > > > > > > I think that if you send me their domain, I'll filter all their traffic. > > > Routing must be free to everyone, or there is no Internet and we can > > > > Routing, yes, delegation of address space, I want to say yes too, but it > > is "hard" for an ISP to get address space, and some may pass this on to > > the customer in the form of a charge. > > I think any plan to charge for address space has to be accompanied by > charges per route. If not, what are the incentives to aggregate? > > For example, let's say that an organization needs a /16. Let's say there > is a market for addresses, but they find it is cheaper to buy 256 /24s > instead of buy one /16. What is the incentive for them to get the /16? > > The answer may be management considerations or internal routing > efficiency, but I think that if a market for addresses becomes reality, > people will expect any addresses they buy to be routable. I'd have to agree.. There are way too many customers out there grabbing large chunks of address space that they have NO intentions of ever using. We give out /27's by default (32 IP's), and have only had about 2% of our customers ever request (or need) more, and we do have some fairly large corporations on the net right now... -- Rob === _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ Innovative Data Services Serving South-Eastern Michigan Internet Service Provider / Hardware Sales / Consulting Services Voice: (810)855-0404 / Fax: (810)855-3268 / Web: http://www.id.net