From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 22 06:55:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF52B16A447; Mon, 22 May 2006 06:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101B643D67; Mon, 22 May 2006 06:55:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from Anne (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18418; Mon, 22 May 2006 00:55:03 -0600 (MDT) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20060522005140.089ca378@lariat.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 00:54:58 -0600 To: Kris Kennaway , Andrew Thompson From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <20060522020958.GA74782@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <57d710000605151942p2461338au561269fc5937aee7@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20060515225038.08d72690@lariat.org> <446981CD.5000309@gmail.com> <4469C668.2060807@rerowe.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20060516104907.08788ad8@lariat.org> <446A0608.10608@freebsd.org> <20060517130629.T64952@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> <20060521180003.GA59697@xor.obsecurity.org> <7.0.1.0.2.20060521131507.0893e9e8@lariat.org> <20060521220333.GA58342@heff.fud.org.nz> <20060522020958.GA74782@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Dmitry Pryanishnikov , stable@freebsd.org, Colin Percival , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: 6.1 stability (Re: 4.11 snapshots?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 06:55:28 -0000 At 08:09 PM 5/21/2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: >We did ourselves a big disservice by not pointing out clearly in the >todo list that most of the listed problems are VERY RARE and are >unlikely to affect most/all users. In future we're going to have to >be clearer about that, because you're not the only user who was scared >for no reason. > >We really had to push FreeBSD hard to find those problems; The servers I build are pushed really hard. >6.1 stands >up to enormous test loads that all previous tested releases could not >handle. I wouldn't be surprised if 4.x cannot handle the same >workloads, simply because no-one may have ever attempted such loads on >a 4.x system. > >Kris > >P.S. If you're willing to put some effort into analyzing and profiling >it, I'd be willing to work with you on your performance problem. You sound like one of those e-mails I keep getting offering to help me with my, er, performance problems. ;-) Seriously: The problem is that in my tests 6.x does not surpass Linux in performance, while 4.11 does. --Brett Glass