From nobody Thu Jul 24 20:09:31 2025 X-Original-To: dev-commits-src-main@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bp2Cf0Zxmz63786; Thu, 24 Jul 2025 20:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from omta004.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net (omta002.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net [3.97.99.33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bp2Cd5yCHz3GMZ; Thu, 24 Jul 2025 20:09:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from shw-obgw-4001a.ext.cloudfilter.net ([10.228.9.142]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPS id f29LuwDak5Mqyf2Fxu0iAt; Thu, 24 Jul 2025 20:09:33 +0000 Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.66.136.217]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPSA id f2FwuuJ8eWX70f2Fwu0Wz5; Thu, 24 Jul 2025 20:09:33 +0000 X-Auth-User: cschuber X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=d71WygjE c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=688292fd a=h7br+8Ma+Xn9xscxy5znUg==:117 a=h7br+8Ma+Xn9xscxy5znUg==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Wb1JkmetP80A:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=EkcXrb_YAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=s6AfPRkKuVrWsxFoEGoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=LK5xJRSDVpKd5WXXoEvA:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67BC10BB; Thu, 24 Jul 2025 13:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slippy.cwsent.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D118D784; Thu, 24 Jul 2025 13:09:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.9.0 11/07/2018 with nmh-1.8+dev Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Kyle Evans cc: Cy Schubert , src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: 962876cc24ee - main - UPDATING: Note the Kerberos package rename (c7da9fb90b0b) In-reply-to: <8200b60d-fcf9-431f-a417-7c0865feefd3@FreeBSD.org> References: <202507241824.56OIO88s005888@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20250724190526.2F85A642@slippy.cwsent.com> <20250724193611.5FEAB54F@slippy.cwsent.com> <8200b60d-fcf9-431f-a417-7c0865feefd3@FreeBSD.org> Comments: In-reply-to Kyle Evans message dated "Thu, 24 Jul 2025 14:56:09 -0500." List-Id: Commit messages for the main branch of the src repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-main List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Sender: owner-dev-commits-src-main@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2025 13:09:31 -0700 Message-Id: <20250724200931.D118D784@slippy.cwsent.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfO++olcv3u/qlo2zB9yiBJ3Pb8LmlI0kfd/zmSMq4C9T3Z3H3mhIJ6fqSBGvGyAH5ay6CXwtOj5sPbrWj3uZED5QvklviZxtT1UmaLUEtCcLdD/0B7xx C5GdWtjD2SeLqPEtSvSZuwe2n2LzCC7PCqKrgpfcUAve6taQ+eV3FFI+z5YgdO6aBYmVpUR4p6Pvw36Hhal3tYFtBfxsiL9F/GAPkMNq+fOZuKcfaBR7cwaK SOBX4WAG1Fv84jsMeta4pHnYV+9GbxW2JIK9FGKFseNNtovkY4AnppSueJKjlUwvv8DSRhv1z+z6bkXRliqXWAdYP8NY1HQDHtzJ8WF+nAs= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bp2Cd5yCHz3GMZ X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:3.96.0.0/15, country:US] In message <8200b60d-fcf9-431f-a417-7c0865feefd3@FreeBSD.org>, Kyle Evans write s: > On 7/24/25 14:36, Cy Schubert wrote: > > In message , Lexi Winter writes: > >> > >> > >> --/cJljwJYtPl3uHOB > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >> Content-Disposition: inline > >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >> > >> hi Cy, > >> > >> Cy Schubert: > >>> In message <202507241824.56OIO88s005888@gitrepo.freebsd.org>, Lexi Winter > = > >> =20 > >>> writes: > >>>> UPDATING: Note the Kerberos package rename (c7da9fb90b0b) > >> =20 > >>> Shouldn't this be the other way around? Heimdal is FreeBSD-kerberos while > = > >> =20 > >>> MIT is FreeBSD-krb5. I objected to the name change because it could cause > = > >> =20 > >>> people to assume they were one in the same. > >> > >> although i understand you objected to D51420, i landed it anyway[0] > >> which means the packages are back to their old names and there are > >> no more FreeBSD-krb5* packages. > >> > >> let me explain why i did this: > >> > >> - the change to the package names caused friction both inside the > >> project (e.g., it broke the OCI build scripts) and outside the > >> project (according to reports i received from downstream users). > >> > >> - it was not clear there is any advantage to renaming the packages. > >> > >> - due to above i was specifically asked to land this commit by several > >> people, including a pkgbase maintainer, and one of my mentors at the > >> time. > >> > >> - i considered this a reasonable course of action because this restored > >> the previous status quo and undid a change that (as far as i'm aware) > >> hadn't been reviewed by #pkgbase, so in case of doubt, i erred on the > >> side of restoring the previous behaviour. > >> > >> i apologise for reverting your code over your stated objections but now > >> that we are back to the previous behaviour, we can discuss whether to > >> rename these packages, which i suggest doing via a Phabricator review > >> that includes #pkgbase. > > > > No offense taken. I'm ok if those using the packages understand fully. > > > > Do people want /usr/src/krb5 renamed to /usr/src/kerberos5 when Heimdal is > > removed? I'm open to this. > > > IMO it's fine to stay where it is; krb5 is a designation given to it > elsewhere (upstream?), not just a FreeBSD-ism. If it were hard to > recognize what that may be for someone familiar with Kerberos > implementations it'd be more tempting to move it. > > I do think we should add a note to ^/README.md with a short description > of the krb5/ directory, though. This is a good idea. > > Thanks, > > Kyle Evans -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org NTP: Web: https://nwtime.org e**(i*pi)+1=0