From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 8 9:35:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A1615A6E for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:35:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16091; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:31:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:31:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Alex Zepeda Cc: John Polstra , asmodai@wxs.nl, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /sys/boot, egcs vs. gcc, -Os In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Alex Zepeda wrote: > On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, John Polstra wrote: > > > Chuck Robey wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the clue, John! As much as I hate redoing the KDE and > > > gnome ports, it looks like doing that again ... > > > > I don't blame you. I've never even built them, for the simple (lazy) > > reason that they looked like they'd be too painful to upgrade. > > Bah, if the ports-tree can make building Gnome easy, it's hardly painful > (and I know KDE is easy to build from tarballs). It just takes a bit of > patience. If that were true, but it's not. Older versions of the config files and libraries can very easily cause the ports to fail to build. Every time I upgrade stuff, I have to go about doing search and destroy on old stuff. On top of that, there are various mistakes in dependencies; there's one lib (I forget which) which installs under one name, but all of the dependencies on it are under another name. The stuff seems to change it's mind on whether it wants to install under /usr/local or /usr/X11R6, so finding stuff is pretty complicated, and very dependent on version, because the darn install dirs change, just to make things worse. When Satoshi builds stuff, it's in a real clean environment, but in fact, all the gnome and kde ports are extraordinarly sensitive to stuff from older ports hanging around. That's why folks are wary of upgrading those guys. The gnome stuff is really neat, else I'd never even bother. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message