From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Apr 17 13:24:35 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA19950 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 13:24:35 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA19939 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 13:24:27 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA09962; Mon, 17 Apr 1995 13:21:32 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199504172021.NAA09962@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: support for Xircom PCMCIA Ethernet adapters? To: jrb@cs.pdx.edu (James Binkley) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 13:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Cc: terry@cs.weber.edu, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199504172010.NAA14591@sirius.cs.pdx.edu> from "James Binkley" at Apr 17, 95 01:10:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2021 Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Him Jim! > This is extremely important if possible. E.g., a lot of current > radio lan hardware is only going to have the following driver-types... > .odi-client > .odi-server > .ndis > .pkt if you are lucky > .maybe unixware > .just maybe sco > A few years ago I did some work for Intel vis-a-vis NCR wavelan. > In general they weren't about to release their src or do anything > other than ODI, etc. Pretty typical for esoteric lan cards in > the pc market. There is source code for the NCR wavelan card in Mach. Though most vendors do what you state, your sited example was a bad one :-(. > regards, > Jim Binkley > jrb@cs.pdx.edu > Your message <9504171621.AA08143@cs.weber.edu>: > >> > On the other hand, I have suggested many times that the loadable > >> > kernel modules should have their loader code in the kernel, and > >> > this is one example why: to enable demand loading in a general > >> > case seperate from consideration of the symbol tables to enable > >> > the loading od Novell ODI drivers for servers. These are protected > >> > mode driver that exist for nearly all ethernet and many token ring > >> > and other odd cards. > >> > > >> > That UnixWare does it proves it is possible. Kurt Mahon has hinted > >> > that he might be able to get some of his code for this released. > >> > >> Do you mean that we can get hold of ODI drivers (binaries) and used them > >> under FreeBSD? > > > >Yes, if: > > > >1) They could be loaded into kernel memory. > > > >2) Their external symbols are appropriately resolved. > > > >Both of these require knowledge of the binary file format. > > > >Kurt Mahon is the engineer who wrote the code for UnixWare. > > > > > > Terry Lambert > > terry@cs.weber.edu > >--- > >Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > >or previous employers. > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD