From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 2 11:16:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F5F1065677; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 11:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [62.220.235.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95B98FC29; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 11:16:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FC11CC60; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:01:48 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id TOrv0FCxeh39; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:01:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from rivendell (a91-155-174-194.elisa-laajakaista.fi [91.155.174.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 256391CC5D; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:01:44 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: From: "Reko Turja" To: References: <20100402021715.669838e0.stas@FreeBSD.org><11597.1270200291@critter.freebsd.dk><20100402101454.GA62089@icarus.home.lan> <20100402.122836.41723967.sthaug@nethelp.no> In-Reply-To: <20100402.122836.41723967.sthaug@nethelp.no> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:01:57 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-7"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, dougb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Results of BIND RFC X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 11:16:57 -0000 +AD4- Strongly disagree. +AD4- +AD4APg- Or if it cannot, the +ACI-base +AD4APg- system+ACI- needs to start using pkg+AF8AKg- (somehow) for use, = and src.conf +AD4APg- WITHOUT+AF8-xxx (where xxx +AD0- some software) removed. = Concept being: +ACI-I +AD4APg- don't need Kerberos+ADs- pkg+AF8-delete base-krb5. I also = don't need=20 +AD4APg- lib32+ADs- +AD4APg- pkg+AF8-delete base-lib32+ACI-. Beautiful concept, hard to = implement due=20 +AD4APg- to +AD4APg- libraries being yanked out from underneathe binaries that are=20 +AD4APg- linked to +AD4APg- them. But you get the idea. +AD4- +AD4- This +ACo-might+ACo- be workable. However, in general - a large = part of the +AD4- reason why I use FreeBSD is that the FreeBSD base system gives me +AD4- most of what I want, in +ACo-one+ACo- well defined chunk, = +ACo-without+ACo- having +AD4- to install a zillion extra packages, and without umpteen different +AD4- versions of config files and locations for the important=20 +AD4- information. me +-1 If I wanted to go Gnu/BSD (or Loonix) route, I'd already installed=20 either thank you. Funny though that BIND which is pretty=20 straightforward as configuration goes and as much essential system=20 component as Sendmail is getting the axe. I thought one of the main=20 philosophies in FreeBSD always was being a system in itself, rather=20 than kernel with some haphazardly thrown in components added. -Reko=20