From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 6 01:01:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3DB16A4CE for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 01:01:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from speicher.org (speicher.org [208.199.76.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3170E43D53 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 01:01:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from geoff@speicher.org) Received: from speicher.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by speicher.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9610qQN054313; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 21:00:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from geoff@speicher.org) Received: (from geoff@localhost) by speicher.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9610pAL054312; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 21:00:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from geoff) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 21:00:51 -0400 From: Geoff Speicher To: "Jason C. Wells" Message-ID: <20041006010051.GA53821@sirius.speicher.org> References: <200410060019.i960JSbq012606@bunrab.catwhisker.org> <1F92A08DB846503C2933CB0D@[192.168.1.16]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1F92A08DB846503C2933CB0D@[192.168.1.16]> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: csh is root's shell? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:01:14 -0000 On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 05:26:32PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: > --On Tuesday, October 05, 2004 5:19 PM -0700 David Wolfskill > wrote: > > >Well, per > >http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/master.passwd?rev=1.1&conte > >nt-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup it looks as if /bin/csh was root's shell as > >of Revision 1.1, Sun Jun 20 13:41:37 1993 UTC (11 years, 3 months ago) by > >rgrimes. > > > >No, I didn't check to see if it had changed back & forth in the interim. > > Wow. I must have been carrying my passwd files along with my upgrades > since forever. I don't have a single system that has csh as root's shell. I imagine it was made the default because of its supposed friendly interactivity features. I personally find it quite the contrary (no offense to Bill Joy of course), as do plenty of others. Google on 'csh considered harmful' for a compelling argument. The nice part about having csh as the default root shell is that it actually discourages use of the root login. That nasty csh is a constant reminder for me that I'm logged in as root and probably shouldn't be. ;) Geoff