From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 20:06:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0880416A404 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 20:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B725713C4B0 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 20:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1126467ana for ; Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:06:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IUkdGL/b1FfdxClBnZYQRaM23CgtLGiaVMy4VVr41OGT7/EdhF/YquCkZwHfXpPqfXAM3zNUjJLwM7gHGQVY15uDc8FykXIvHDgLhDuXMdBYCJjQX2gLtfsGf+Ve5P54LQR7Ho17MOb0SwkvSMd49wAvC5BfnKCyN9yQ1ArL4R4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rufZ8yshCaPFw1Td6TatMw53heFhus4knF36nUjogO+TIRMUe9jP9C6VN2xbOofSqNiRuNUegE30M5Cd7sJ88uJ5jhUoTrHeNegheC7fgMFWLtlQc4SFEzfoSWwQV51Wrn2x6KNjOnZZGhWu11wKZypgr/ekEI9qjVpe6clFTRw= Received: by 10.100.33.14 with SMTP id g14mr2368149ang.1175889980230; Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.109.12 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 13:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 15:06:20 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" In-Reply-To: <20070406193125.GA27879@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070405103708.GC842@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20070405180711.GA60539@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20070406193125.GA27879@kobe.laptop> Cc: Peter Jeremy , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Do we need this junk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 20:06:22 -0000 On 4/6/07, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2007-04-06 08:40, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > I don't appreciate being called a lier. Maybe you should step up to > > the plate if you don't believe my statistics. > > > > AMD Semptron 1,259 > > AMD Athlon_64 2,796 > > AMD Athlon_XP 2,885 > > AMD Athlon 812 > > AMD Duron 741 > > AMD Opteron 625 > > AMD Turion_64 175 > > > > Intel Pentium_4 8,768 > > Intel Pentium_4M 291 > > Intel Pentium_M 1,722 > > Intel Pentium_3M 233 > > Intel Pentium_3 6,362 > > Intel Pentium_D 982 > > Intel Pentium_2 1,872 > > Intel Celeron_P2 888 > > Intel Celeron_P3 529 > > Intel Celeron_P4 4,224 > > Intel Celeron_M 299 > > Intel Xeon_P4 2,380 > > Intel Core 1,246 > > > > Generic i786 1 > > Generic i686_SSE 33 > > Generic i686_MMX 114 > > Generic i686 298 > > Generic i586_MMX 520 > > Generic i586 261 > > Generic i486 30 > > Unknown 99 > > > > Data source: http://www.bsdstats.org/cpus.php > > A lot of people are running "bsdstats" ports, and we should appreciate > the work people have put into making http://www.bsdstats.org/ happen. > > I'm not sure I agree with the use you are putting these statistics into, > whatever. > > The original goal of the statistics pages was to serve as a basis of > version-related and hardware-related information, which can be used to > convince hardware vendors to support *MORE* FreeBSD systems. > > Now you are arguing that because more modern CPUs and hardware are, > well, "more modern", we should start dropping support for some of the > systems listed there -- effectivelly reducing the number of systems > supported by FreeBSD. > I only suggested dropping PC98. Why? If you look at the PC98 page* it hasn't been updated since FreeBSD 4.11 and bsdstats.org shows zero people using it... PC98 is a dead platform like Alpha and Alpha support is being dropped for FreeBSD 7, but if you look at bsdstats.org the Alpha platform has more users than sparc, powerpc and pc98 combined!!