From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 17 14:14:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032DA37B401 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 14:14:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [64.49.215.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E63343E6E for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 14:14:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [64.49.215.141]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386F18A19BE; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 18:14:12 -0400 (AST) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 18:14:12 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: kalts@estpak.ee, Sam Drinkard , Subject: Re: -STABLE was stable for long time (Re: FreeBSD: Server or Desktop OS?) In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20021117142506.00e60dc0@207.227.119.2> Message-ID: <20021117181018.E23359-100000@hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > Not to pick on anyone, but for as long as I can recall Marc > (scrappy@hub.org) has run afoul of many problems and it's either due to > taking risks or just shit luck and stepping on every odd and rare bug > there is. Not that it's any fun being the exception. 8-/ I don't disagree here, so don't considering it being picked on ... but, if those 'odd and rare bugs' could be properly debugged and fixed, it saves someone else from hitting it ... life without risks is boring, and -STABLE was a risk that I've taken for many years now. As I've mentioned before, I've never expected it to be rock solid, or never to crash ... I just wish there was a better mechanism for getting those crashes analyzed and fixed ... I'm not afraid to replace hardware ... the guys at Rackspace have been great in that regard ... I think Venus has had three motherboards put in her "just in case", RAM swap'd out 4 times "just in case", power supplies upgraded to 400W (which did fix some of the issues), etc ... I don't think I could ask for anything better of them ... In the period that they were working on the hardware, Matt found one of those 'odd and rare' bugs and got it fixed, so the OS benefitied as a result, as will anyone else using the 4.x branch of the tree ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message