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On 05/01/10 18:10, Jeff Roberson wrote:
> When you disable journaling it also disables soft-updates.  You need to
> re-enable it.  I could decouple this.  It's hard to say which is the POLA.

I would vote for decoupling. If I have SU on, then enable journaling,
then disable journaling, I would expect SU to still be on.


Doug

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