From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 10 20:57:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6418C16A420 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:57:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidt@yadt.co.uk) Received: from outcold.yadt.co.uk (outcold.yadt.co.uk [81.187.204.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DF613C457 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:57:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidt@yadt.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by outcold.yadt.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876F513B3; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:57:41 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at yadt.co.uk Received: from outcold.yadt.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (outcold.yadt.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A8mkpM-0+gqN; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:57:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: by outcold.yadt.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D562F13AB; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:57:38 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:57:38 +0000 From: David Taylor To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Message-ID: <20080110205738.GA22261@outcold.yadt.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <90133.1199970620@critter.freebsd.dk> <47861AF9.1020608@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47861AF9.1020608@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:57:43 -0000 On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > >> BTW as to the single sentence that would recitify this in the bsd > >> license it would be something as simple as: > >> > >> "Execution of covered work in any form may be conditioned to > >> payment fees (if any) and/or performing work in kind detailed at > >> http://......". > > > > No, no, no, NO & NO F**KING WAY! > > Which part of "(if any)" is not clear... i.e. the licensor is > completely free to waive the requirment (i.e. identical to the current > license) My one and only post to this thread: It is clearly not identical to the current license as it imposes an additional burden upon any user of the licensed work. They must check what "payment" they are required to make. Plus what happens if the website changes? More fundamentally it completely undermines the entire point of the BSD licence. -- David Taylor