From owner-freebsd-net Wed May 13 00:59:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05018 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Wed, 13 May 1998 00:59:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA04929; Wed, 13 May 1998 00:58:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06880; Wed, 13 May 1998 00:57:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Ollivier Robert cc: core@FreeBSD.ORG, net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: INRIA IPv6 on FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 13 May 1998 00:58:24 +0200." <19980513005824.B17879@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 00:57:23 -0700 Message-ID: <6876.895046243@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > If I remember well, there are at least two WIDE implementations, one > kernel-based and one using a user-mode daemon. I've not tried the WIDE ones > but the INRIA code is heavily used in France where FreeBSD is one of the > most used IPv6 platforms... > > FWIW IBM has chosen the INRIA as its IPv6 stack for AIX. Sigh.. If we're to get any further with this, we really really need to get out of the realm of the political ("xxx is running our stack! We're #1!" :-) and into the realm of the technical. WHY is it better than the WIDE stuff? How and where? What are the _specific points of comparison_ that we need to be aware of? We've gotten to the stage where we're at now through the various IPv6 folks failing to talk to one another or look at the competing offerings, choosing instead to go focus exclusively on one specific favored implementation. That has to change or FreeBSD likely as not won't be adopting _anyone_'s IPv6 implementation because we're never going to get past the vague handwaving stage. Is it too much to ask that someone at INRIA take a look at the WIDE stuff in *detail* and vice-versa? Sorry to sound peeved, but it's been a frustrating exercise trying to get the various IPv6 camps to even consider working together and it seems that it's always been a "use OUR stack!" issue rather than "we'll get together,work something out and get back to you" with IPv6. This wouldn't fly in any other area of FreeBSD development and I fail to see why IPv6 should be any different. You folks have GOT to start working together because the current situation we have is just ludicrous! :-( :-( - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message